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    1. Andrew Miller  🦓 🦓 🦓‏ @socrates1024 1 Aug 2014
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      @petertoddbtc @NickSzabo4 And the non merged-mined version?

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    2. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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      @socrates1024 @NickSzabo4 Perfectly good idea, I proposed a version of it myself last year. Can be done with multisig right now.

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    3. Numisight‏ @Numisight 1 Aug 2014
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      @petertoddbtc @socrates1024 @NickSzabo4 with an OP_RETURN the side chain can also checkpoint its chain as an anti fork measure.

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    4. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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      @Numisight @socrates1024 @NickSzabo4 That doesn't actually work - an attacker can do that too to make the checkpoints useless.

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    5. Numisight‏ @Numisight 1 Aug 2014
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      @petertoddbtc @socrates1024 @NickSzabo4 for a 100% public side chain, if only a few trusted addresses can checkpoint that reduces the attack

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    6. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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      @Numisight @socrates1024 @NickSzabo4 Right, that's using proof of publication to hold the trusted third parties honest. Very different idea.

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    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 1 Aug 2014
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      @petertoddbtc @Numisight @socrates1024 "Public does something" => TTPs follow political rules != honestly following protocol rules.

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    8. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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      @NickSzabo4 @Numisight @socrates1024 The something can be leaving. Also, can enforce financial loss on fraud w/ fidelity bonds.

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    9. Numisight‏ @Numisight 1 Aug 2014
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      @petertoddbtc @NickSzabo4 @socrates1024 Fidelity bonds on who? At that point it leaves autonomous territory and enters national laws.

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    10. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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      @Numisight @NickSzabo4 @socrates1024 A fidelity bond is a crypto enforced bond, not legally enforced. Anonymous parties can be held to them.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 1 Aug 2014
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      @petertoddbtc @Numisight @socrates1024 Crypto fidelity bonds interesting. Link to math?

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        2. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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          @NickSzabo4 @Numisight @socrates1024 Fidelity bonded banking writeup: http://bit.ly/1pwsZI9 

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 1 Aug 2014
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          @petertoddbtc Thanks!

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        4. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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          @NickSzabo4 Hmm, linking bitcointalk seems broken. Just google "fidelity bonded banking Bitcoin" and go to the bitcointalk hit.

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        1. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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          @NickSzabo4 @Numisight @socrates1024 No math involved: throw away bitcoins to make a digital ID expensive w/ protocols with fraud proofs.

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        2. Numisight‏ @Numisight 1 Aug 2014
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          @NickSzabo4 @petertoddbtc @socrates1024 Crypto fidelity bonds smell turing complete to me. Perhaps I am looking at it the wrong way.

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        3. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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          @Numisight @NickSzabo4 @socrates1024 Indeed you are. You wrote the protocol to make it fraud proof compatible w/o Turing completeness.

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        4. Numisight‏ @Numisight 1 Aug 2014
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          @petertoddbtc @NickSzabo4 @socrates1024 But then how do I claim my loss against the posted bond? to be made whole?

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        5. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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          @Numisight @NickSzabo4 @socrates1024 That's where improvements to the scripting system come into: proof-of-fraud to claim coins.

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        6. Numisight‏ @Numisight 1 Aug 2014
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          @petertoddbtc @NickSzabo4 @socrates1024 So unless the bond covers 100% there is logic needed. This makes it basically 200% reserve.

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        7. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 1 Aug 2014
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          @Numisight @NickSzabo4 @socrates1024 Yeah, >100% reserve tends to be easier to make work.

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