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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Sep 7
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      I haven't seen anything falsified here. What are you talking about?

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    2. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Sep 7
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      The cost of reorging the whole chain is lower than total value of the network. For a large enough payment you cannot rely on waiting for enough confirmations to accumulate PoW in order to make it economically irrational to revert. Security is not just PoW.

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    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Sep 7
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      Replying to @fnietom @eiaine and

      That means Bitcoin doesn't secure such a large transaction. Something else may or may not secure it, but Bitcoin does not. What did you think it meant?

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    4. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Sep 8
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      I see. Do you have a post explaining this in depth? I’d mainly want to understand if you consider coin issuance one of those large paymets, with many recipients, or you think coinbases are different from single tx payment outputs.

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    5. zender  🛡‏ @zndtoshi Sep 8
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      Replying to @fnietom @NickSzabo4 and

      Bitcoin protocol is enforced by people that use and validate the bitcoins they receive. When you talk about a long period re-org, that's a man-made attack. I personally would refuse to follow that chain and pay fees only to the miners that work on the legacy chain.

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    6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Sep 8
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      In other words, you would fork. Others wouldn't. The result would be a disaster encouraged by this soothing nonsense. To claim that this is a great way to secure large transactions, so don't worry rely on that 100,000 BTC you just received afte just a few confirms, is ludicrous.

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    7. zender  🛡‏ @zndtoshi Sep 8
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @fnietom and

      1. Yes this would mean a fork. But that would mean that economic actors (exchanges, companies, users) would have to decide which chain is the correct one and people would sell/buy the coins that are relevant for them as Bitcoin.

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    8. zender  🛡‏ @zndtoshi Sep 8
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      2. Ultimatelly I believe all people would converge to legacy chain and the re-org chain would just have a value tranding towards zero. This is a disincentive for an attacker to attempt a deep re-org.

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    9. Donald McIntyre  ☣️ 🗑️‏ @TokenHash Sep 8
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      Replying to @zndtoshi @NickSzabo4 and

      that's community subjective security and will never happen double-spend attacks (reorgs) are a local problem between sender & receiver billion/trillion dollar tx senders & receivers will likely develop special off-chain security protocols, most common will be break txs and wait

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    10. Donald McIntyre  ☣️ 🗑️‏ @TokenHash Sep 8
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      Binance CEO tried the "community subjective" security model when he was hacked, but was promptly rejected:https://etherplan.com/2019/05/19/a-bitcoin-reorganization-as-suggested-by-binance-ceo-is-not-right-or-wrong-it-is-just-extremely-difficult/7650/ …

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Sep 8
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      Replying to @TokenHash @zndtoshi and

      "Community subjective" == "who needs security, just call out our mob when TSHTF."

      9:55 AM - 8 Sep 2019
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