Nick Szabo  🔑

Correct, we are talking about social intervention here. When should we use, how fast can we use it, etc.

You are treading in dangerous waters @Hasu In practice I think you're right that some form of community governance will happen in that situation if the situation is catastrophic and a large enough percentage of the community is affected.

It won't be framed as such though - there will be one group shouting "consensus is decided by nodes/users so it's OK to re-org using a snapshot" and another group shouting "Nakamoto consensus is king" plus a contentious fork.

What about immutability? All this years preaching the dogma and now let's use social consensus to decide what chain we like?

Radical immutability serves no purpose. Bitcoin is a tool made by humans to serve humans. If it stops being useless, we need to be able to change it (and we are - we can always move to an identical copy without e.g. a bug)

"Serves no purpose"?! WTF?! Good grief you are one of these vile creatures: https://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2006/10/hello-kitty-people.html … You have outed yourself as an enemy of Bitcoin security. Blocked.

Nick, I'd urge you to reconsidering blocking Hasu. He's a potent and thoughtful Bitcoiner.

to the triggered people below: bitcoin will fail if it has no intellectual diversity. ideas need to be fought over in the market, not ignored and feared. luckily, the puritans have no control, and they're not persuasive.