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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. nic carter‏ @nic__carter Sep 6
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      Replying to @koeppelmann @udiWertheimer and

      Bitcoin finality isn’t binary. Anyone telling you six is sufficient in all cases is lying. It was a semi arbitrary number Satoshi offhandedly mentioned

      3 replies 1 retweet 60 likes
    2. nic carter‏ @nic__carter Sep 6
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      Replying to @nic__carter @koeppelmann and

      For casual use 1 or 2 is fine. For large transactions the jury is still out - there is no widespread model. If I were receiving $1b I would probably wait for a few days worth of confs

      4 replies 0 retweets 54 likes
    3. Martin Köppelmann‏ @koeppelmann Sep 6
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      Replying to @nic__carter @udiWertheimer and

      @NickSzabo4 suggests to wait a few month for $1b.

      4 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    4. Hasu‏ @hasufl Sep 6
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      Replying to @koeppelmann @nic__carter and

      A few days should be safe because after that point a reorg causes so much collateral damage that the attacker can't expect the network to converge on his version of the chain. The social layer would definitely reject it.

      2 replies 1 retweet 51 likes
    5. Martin Köppelmann‏ @koeppelmann Sep 6
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      Replying to @hasufl @nic__carter and

      the attacker can control the size of the collateral damage by simply replaying transactions 1:1 that are not part of the attack.

      2 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    6. Hasu‏ @hasufl Sep 6
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      Replying to @koeppelmann @nic__carter and

      I was assuming that already, but he can't replay coinbase transactions. These coins and their ancestors will definitely be destroyed, causing havoc in the network.

      2 replies 0 retweets 24 likes
    7. Martin Köppelmann‏ @koeppelmann Sep 6
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      Replying to @hasufl @nic__carter and

      those can only be spend 100 blocks after mined. So for a 200 block reorg we are talking about 100*12.5 = 1250 BTC ~$12.500.000 I am aware that IN THEORY those missing UTXOs can block an unlimited amount of total tx. In practice this seems unlikely.

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    8. Hasu‏ @hasufl Sep 6
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      Replying to @koeppelmann @nic__carter and

      So you think Bitcoin nodes would accept a reorg more than a couple days deep? The recent Binance incident implies otherwise. There was immediate support, incl. from core devs, to reject that reorg which wasn't even a day deep and not coming from a hostile entity.

      3 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
    9. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Sep 6
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      Replying to @hasufl @koeppelmann and

      At this point one is relying on trusted third parties rather than the protocol. A dangerous thing to do, it cuts into Bitcoin's value prop. Frequent de-reorgs provide another, even easier vector of attack.

      2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    10. Hasu‏ @hasufl Sep 6
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @koeppelmann and

      Nick, I know you've been away from Twitter for a few months but did you hear about the Binance hack and their idea to bribe miners to take these funds instead (a "scorched earth policy" to reject future theft)? What are your thoughts on that?

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Sep 6
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      Replying to @hasufl @koeppelmann and

      Such proposals should be considered very guilty until proven very innocent.

      7:20 AM - 6 Sep 2019
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      • Riding Unicorns to the Moon Insanity nic carter Kapishaa OrcaAnon Linear Trav MAX_ Udi Wertheimer Bitcoin
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        2. Stackmore 🔑 ⚡️ 🔦‏ @1971Bubble Sep 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @hasufl and

          I love seeing Nick active again. So much wisdom he can fit in 280 characters.

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        3. 22nd Century Crypto‏ @22centurycrypto Sep 6
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          Replying to @1971Bubble @NickSzabo4 and

          Imagine what he could do to a whitepaper...

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        4. Stackmore 🔑 ⚡️ 🔦‏ @1971Bubble Sep 6
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          Replying to @22centurycrypto @NickSzabo4 and

          :)

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