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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 17
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Hongkong Informer

      What do Brexit and Hong Kong separatism have in common? They are the latest manifestations of the deep, centuries-long separation between common law and Roman (civil) law. https://twitter.com/hongkonginforme/status/1156688792650207233 … https://swarajyamag.com/world/how-brexit-was-also-a-struggle-between-british-common-law-and-laws-of-eu …

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      Hongkong Informer @hongkonginforme
      Hong Kong Understands the Uncommon Value of the Common Law – National Review https://hongkonginformer.com/229847/hong-kong-understands-the-uncommon-value-of-the-common-law-national-review/ … pic.twitter.com/5pUZSeX72F
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    2. Peter Van Valkenburgh‏ @valkenburgh Aug 21
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4

      I share a deep respect for the common law but I think this is a bit of a false equivalency. Reasonable to ask whether Mainland China even governs by law (rather than arbitrary power), such that it might be a separation between law vs totalitarianism rather than common vs civil.

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    3. Peter Van Valkenburgh‏ @valkenburgh Aug 21
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      Replying to @valkenburgh @NickSzabo4

      A lot of this goes back to the Hart Fuller debate. Can you even call the commands of a totalitarian "law" http://www.law.nyu.edu/sites/default/files/upload_documents/Positivism_and_Legality_Waldron.pdf …

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    4. Peter Van Valkenburgh‏ @valkenburgh Aug 21
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      But if the claim here is more that common law systems provide a greater defense than civil to would-be tyrants ultimate destruction of law within their domains... I think I agree.

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    5. Peter Van Valkenburgh‏ @valkenburgh Aug 21
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      Although, I don't think Europe is in any immediate danger of slipping into totalitarianism because of their civil law system. In which case HK separatism is a bit different than Brexit

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    6. dstadulis‏ @dstadulis Aug 21
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      Replying to @valkenburgh @NickSzabo4

      The legislative crack down on freedom of speech and assembly, in response to GJ, occurring in France right now has all the hallmarks of the totalitarianism due to civil law.

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    7. dstadulis‏ @dstadulis Aug 21
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      Replying to @dstadulis @valkenburgh @NickSzabo4

      See below, since April 2019 it is now illegal in France to protest without revealing your face. If you attempt to protest privately, the penalty is one year of imprisonment and 15 000 euro fine. [1]https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/loi-anticasseurs-51-associations-demandent-l-abrogation-d-un-texte-dangereux_2072505.html …

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    8. dstadulis‏ @dstadulis Aug 21
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      Replying to @dstadulis @valkenburgh @NickSzabo4

      Twitter seems to be bungling this links so it needs to be copied manually. https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_visant_à_renforcer_et_garantir_le_maintien_de_l …’ordre_public_lors_des_manifestations

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    9. Peter Van Valkenburgh‏ @valkenburgh Aug 21
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      Replying to @dstadulis @NickSzabo4

      Good point and worrisome. I wonder though if the lack of a strong constitutional law tradition (free speech jurisprudence) is more to blame in this case.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 21
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      Replying to @valkenburgh @dstadulis

      They are related -- judges in civil law jurisdictions are far more reluctant to override legislators -- goes back to the Roman civil law maxim, "the emperor's will is law".

      4:31 PM - 21 Aug 2019
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        1. Peter Van Valkenburgh‏ @valkenburgh Aug 21
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @dstadulis

          Yes, and constitutional law, as messy as it is, shares the same organic case by case quality as common law. Also borrows helpful forms like levels of scrutiny, strict liability, and multipart tests.

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