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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 15
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      People's attitudes & security measures about paper money vary widely & can change dramatically depending on trust in banks. They will also have stronger incentives to switch to cryptocurrency, which with multisig is far more secure to hold than paper money.

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    2. Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart Aug 15
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      Sure, I get that, but what I'm saying is that it's not the law that's the major impediment. It's cost of security. Knowledge, training convenience and so forth.

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    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 15
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      People have been using coins & paper money for thousands of years, despite the robbers, highwaymen, and pirates. Effective weapons and big lawns help, one of the reasons deep or long NIRP would require much more draconian laws in the U.S. than they do at least so far in Europe.

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    4. Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart Aug 15
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      Sure, and people still use that stuff, but I also think you can think of robbers, highwaymen and pirates as a form of negative rates. And if people started holding more cash, there would be more robbers, highwaymen and pirates, meaning deeper implied negative rates on cash.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 15
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      So negative interest rates are a form of theft. Thank you for that admission.

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    6. Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart Aug 15
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      I'm not, personally, a fan of NIRP. I don't think it accomplishes what it sets out to do. But I don't think it's theft. And I don't think it's laws against holding physical currency (or metals or whatever) that explains why people don't opt to do that.

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    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 15
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      You just likened negative interest to several enumerated forms of theft. P.S. hundreds of millions of people opt for paper for various transactions. As NIRP spreads & deepens, as bank fees etc. climb, the number of people using paper and number of txs they use it for will grow.

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    8. Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart Aug 15
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      No, I said that paying a bank for storage is a way to avoid theft. And see my other message. If you pay a security guard to protect your stuff from theft also a form of theft?

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    9. theSpence2140‏ @spence2140 Aug 15
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      The bank is NOT storing it, it is lending it out and generating a return on it. That "stuff" is bearer asset protected by the security guard. But that bank deposit is really just an IOU, whereas the bank has taken the bearer asset and lent it out.

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    10. Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart Aug 15
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      Right, but if you go back to the original thread, what if a bank winds up in a situation in which they have no further profitable investments to make?

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 15
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      Then they should do what businesses for millennia have done when business is on the decline -- shrink their operations to fit the new reality. Instead of getting perpetual zombie juice from central banks. It is idiocy to try to fight demographic decline with monetary policy.

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        2. Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart Aug 15
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          Let's take UBS. For obvious reasons, lots of people in Europe would like to have their money with them, as opposed to the various banks across the rest of the euro area. What should they do in light of the inflow of liabilities?

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 15
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          The main reasons are (a) the coercive monetary policy of the ECB & (b) the regulations that prevent pension funds from switching to cash from bonds. NIRP is based on coercion not on market choice. A bit like the robbers etc. you compared negative interest rates to above.

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