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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 12
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Max Keiser, tweet poet.

      More specifically, reliable records of interest rates start about 3,000 years ago. We have *never* in all of this recorded human history seen interest rates as low -- indeed negative! -- as they are today.https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/1161000868784877570 …

      Nick Szabo  🔑 added,

      Max Keiser, tweet poet. @maxkeiser
      Bond prices are hitting highs not seen in... 3,000 years. That’s right, the bond bubble is hitting a 3,000 yr high. When it pops, more than $150 trillion gets wiped out. #Bitcoin #Gold
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      38 replies 351 retweets 1,041 likes
    2. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina Aug 12
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4

      Sidney Homer and Richard Sylla wrote a book on the history of interest rates. I am pretty certain there are no negative rates to be found in this version published 1991pic.twitter.com/pekdh6Nt8r

      5 replies 13 retweets 53 likes
    3. Avtar Sehra‏ @avtarsehra Aug 14
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      Replying to @BitcoinTina @NickSzabo4

      It’s quite a prominent tool that has been used prior to the 90s. First time the term ‘negative interest rate’ was used is by the Swiss central bank in the 70s. But as a concept it has been used over history, as it’s essentially paying a “credit worthy” entity to hold your money.

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    4. Richie P‏ @richiekp101 Aug 14
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      Replying to @avtarsehra @BitcoinTina @NickSzabo4

      Right. Paying someone to store value does not seem insane.

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina Aug 15
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      Replying to @richiekp101 @lziics and

      Negative rates create a perverse set of incentives. Paying a home buyer to take a mortgage. You think this is not insane. In such a world there will be no capitalism, because there will be no capital. Think harder.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Avtar Sehra‏ @avtarsehra Aug 15
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      Replying to @BitcoinTina @richiekp101 and

      That’s not exactly how things work, and certainly not how -ve rates work. Just because central banks push negative rates, this doesn’t mean they will be passed onto retail consumers through commercial banks. There is a lower limit, which is way above zero.

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    7. Avtar Sehra‏ @avtarsehra Aug 15
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      Replying to @avtarsehra @BitcoinTina and

      There are many things wrong and potentially perverse with -ve rates, but pushing views and not understanding the underlying mechanics and incentive structures is not helpful, and is actually perverse in itself.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 15
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      Replying to @avtarsehra @BitcoinTina and

      Nobody understands most of the consequences, including the economists and bankers themselves.

      7:48 AM - 15 Aug 2019
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      • ≋罗≋臻≋ stst Riding Unicorns to the Moon OrangeCoinMemes 🔑PROOF of KEYS🔑[01/03/20] Giacomo Zucco [I identify as a -e^iπ vampire] BitcoinTina☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative) Avtar Sehra Dan Talmon
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        2. Avtar Sehra‏ @avtarsehra Aug 15
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @BitcoinTina and

          Good point, I completely agree. There is not a clear answer either way. We have a system right now that has been the fuel for great innovation and growth (even with its flaws). But it may or may not be a sustainable model. Debate/discussion in structured manner is important.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina Aug 15
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          Replying to @avtarsehra @NickSzabo4 and

          Capitalism is a sustainable model. Capitalism requires price mechanism to work. Price mechanism allocates resources in an economy. Central Banking is about price controls which distorts an economy. We need to get back to capitalism. #bitcoin.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. Avtar Sehra‏ @avtarsehra Aug 15
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          Replying to @BitcoinTina @NickSzabo4 and

          Sorry i didn’t mean capitalism, I meant the central banking model. Point is we have had concept of capitalism and free markets for millennia, ever since the early forms of barter. It’s about how you can drive a low friction environment for trade and innovation.

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        5. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina Aug 15
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          Replying to @avtarsehra @NickSzabo4 and

          The current system is filled with friction. Money is key to social scaling, critical for humanity. Less friction better scaling. Trust minimized money leads to less friction. #bitcoin.

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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