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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 12
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Max Keiser, tweet poet.

      More specifically, reliable records of interest rates start about 3,000 years ago. We have *never* in all of this recorded human history seen interest rates as low -- indeed negative! -- as they are today.https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/1161000868784877570 …

      Nick Szabo  🔑 added,

      Max Keiser, tweet poet. @maxkeiser
      Bond prices are hitting highs not seen in... 3,000 years. That’s right, the bond bubble is hitting a 3,000 yr high. When it pops, more than $150 trillion gets wiped out. #Bitcoin #Gold
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    2. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina Aug 12
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4

      Sidney Homer and Richard Sylla wrote a book on the history of interest rates. I am pretty certain there are no negative rates to be found in this version published 1991pic.twitter.com/pekdh6Nt8r

      5 replies 13 retweets 53 likes
    3. Avtar Sehra‏ @avtarsehra Aug 14
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      Replying to @BitcoinTina @NickSzabo4

      It’s quite a prominent tool that has been used prior to the 90s. First time the term ‘negative interest rate’ was used is by the Swiss central bank in the 70s. But as a concept it has been used over history, as it’s essentially paying a “credit worthy” entity to hold your money.

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    4. Richie P‏ @richiekp101 Aug 14
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      Replying to @avtarsehra @BitcoinTina @NickSzabo4

      Right. Paying someone to store value does not seem insane.

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 14
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      Replying to @richiekp101 @avtarsehra @BitcoinTina

      But it doesn't cost any more to store bits now than it did when interest rates were positive. That metaphor is a preposterous lie.

      4 replies 1 retweet 25 likes
    6. Avtar Sehra‏ @avtarsehra Aug 14
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @richiekp101 @BitcoinTina

      Yes maybe. It’s mostly used as an incentive mechanism by central banks to drive investors to not hoard cash, which would drive a price hike and thus attempt to stabilise it’s value. I can’t argue one way or the other if it’s good or bad, as there’s not enough data.

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    7. Richie P‏ @richiekp101 Aug 15
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      Replying to @avtarsehra @NickSzabo4 @BitcoinTina

      Yup. There are regulatory limits to hoarding cash, but no one is forced to buy bonds unless that's how they set up their fund. There's always gold, cash under the mattress, barrels of oil...

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 15
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      Replying to @richiekp101 @avtarsehra @BitcoinTina

      "Hoarding". You know somebody wants to take your hard-earned savings when they start calling it "hoarding", as if you were trying to stuff too many fire hazard cardboard boxes in your apartment.

      7:41 AM - 15 Aug 2019
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        2. Ragnar Lifthrasir  🏴  🏛️‏ @Ragnarly Aug 15
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @richiekp101 and

          "Hoarding" can be a sign that you're a far right anti-government prepper, who meets the criteria for a red flag law confiscation order.

          1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
        3. Dieter Engel  🍯 🦡 ⚡️‏ @Dieter75 Aug 15
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          Replying to @Ragnarly @NickSzabo4 and

          It’s a red flag law, but for money!

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        1. AgoristView  ⚡️‏ @AgoristView Aug 15
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @richiekp101 and

          Yeah, we wouldn't want people to amass too much potential wealth by producing value for others & refraining from consuming for themselves 🤔 that might lead to real civilization where institutionalized theft isn't tolerated..."Oh Autie Em & Toto, what'll we do!"

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        2. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina Aug 15
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          Replying to @richiekp101 @NickSzabo4 @avtarsehra

          The rules are not fixed. The rules are constantly changing. There are no rules.

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        2. Avtar Sehra‏ @avtarsehra Aug 15
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @richiekp101 @BitcoinTina

          I don’t think there is anything wrong with saving (“hoarding”). I believe the issue which central banks ‘attempt’ to manage with -ve rates is the issue of foreign funds being parked in a local currency -> removing supply -> leading to unmanageable fx rises -> impact trade/export

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        3. AgoristView  ⚡️‏ @AgoristView Aug 15
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          Replying to @avtarsehra @NickSzabo4 and

          Buying/holding a currency transfers wealth to most productive & fiscally responsible w/in said currency market. Govts oppose this bc they're least fiscally responsible as are all those they subsidize. Plus, debt & inflation keep ppl trapped, dependent, working & paying taxes

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        2. Joshua‏ @SureReno Aug 15
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @richiekp101 and

          No. Lack of investment for whatever reason stifles the progress of humanity. With a scarce economy, investment isn’t encouraged. Dynasties are.

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        3. Jordan Wentzell‏ @jordan_wentzell Aug 15
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          Replying to @SureReno @NickSzabo4 and

          Why is it anyone else's business what I do with my own funds? This line of thinking would rationally progress to total communism.

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        4. Joshua‏ @SureReno Aug 15
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          Replying to @jordan_wentzell @NickSzabo4 and

          No. It would prevent a dynastic rule. You'd be encouraged to save but even more encouraged to spend. Our current system is like this, it's not communist.

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        5. Jordan Wentzell‏ @jordan_wentzell Aug 15
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          Replying to @SureReno @NickSzabo4 and

          I would argue dynastic rule is superior to democracy. In a dynasty, the rulers have a vested interest in maintaining a prosperous society for generations. Under democracy, only the next 4 years matter, and the average citizen is far too incompetent to select an effective leader.

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