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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. John Paul Koning‏ @jp_koning Aug 14
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      Early strains of American bitcoinism were motivated by glacially-slow ACH transfers. But these strains have disappeared thanks to several new US instant payments initiatives: -MasterCard Send (2015)/Visa Direct (2016) -Zelle (2017) -TCH's Real Time Payments (2017) -FedNow (2023)

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    2. John Paul Koning‏ @jp_koning Aug 14
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      International bitcoinism was less driven by slow ACH—many nations already had fast domestic payments. Still, all strains could agree that cross-border payments were awful. But new real-time initiatives dashed this consensus: -Swift gpi (2017) -Transferwisehttps://twitter.com/jp_koning/status/1107597169866010625 …

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      John Paul Koning @jp_koning
      Here's a fast remittance. UK to Lithuania off-hours, 7 seconds. All you need is two 24/7 instant domestic payments systems (ECB's TARGET Instant Payment Settlement & UK's Faster Payments), and a service like Transferwise to straddle the gap. https://twitter.com/bikovslv/status/1106615134229839872 …
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    3. John Paul Koning‏ @jp_koning Aug 14
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      With so many strains of bitcoinism being whittled away, just a few remain: -if we can't do mainstream payments, we'll do payments for the excluded -digital gold i.e. bitcoin isn't for paying, it's for hoarding -bitcoin isn't a monetary technology, it's a gambling technology

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 14
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      Replying to @jp_koning

      You are very out of touch. Bitcoinism isn't primarily about fast payments.

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        2. John Paul Koning‏ @jp_koning Aug 14
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4

          Right, it's digital gold. I listed that strain of bitcoinism.

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        3. Eric Lombrozo‏Verified account @eric_lombrozo Aug 14
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          Replying to @jp_koning @NickSzabo4

          Bitcoin is unlike anything else. Trying to pigeonhole it will not shed much insight. Arguing over whether it satisfies this or that arbitrary term is just word salad.

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        4. Joe Kelly‏ @joekelly100 Aug 14
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          Replying to @eric_lombrozo @jp_koning @NickSzabo4

          Agreed, what matters is whether it satisfies any real world need. Is there any actually-useful function that a proof-of-work chain can serve in a cost-effective enough way for its block space to remain in high demand forever? If not, analogies and narratives won’t save it.

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        5. Eric Lombrozo‏Verified account @eric_lombrozo Aug 14
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          Replying to @joekelly100 @jp_koning @NickSzabo4

          Exactly. Bitcoin will definitely shape us more than we can hope to shape it. The wise thing to do is to learn and adapt, because Bitcoin will not adapt to fit anyone's pet narrative.

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        2. nic carter‏ @nic__carter Aug 14
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          not out of touch, just willfully misrepresenting bitcoin to push a contrary narrative. it's rather deliberate

          6 replies 0 retweets 62 likes
        3. Capitalist Dog  ⚡‏ @CapitalistDog1 Aug 14
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          Replying to @nic__carter @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          “Chancellor on Brink of Second Bailout for Banks, because ACH.”

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        2. Saifedean Ammous‏ @saifedean Aug 14
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          Engagement-bait.

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        2. Nelson M. Rosario‏ @NelsonMRosario Aug 14
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          I just wonder if we read different white papers, or read different forum posts, or read about a different Cypherpunk past, or...

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        3. Chadwick‏ @FollowChadwick Aug 14
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          Replying to @NelsonMRosario @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          Bitcoin to me was (and still is) 21 million of something the government couldn't take away. Visa was always fast enough.

          0 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
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        1. Josh Zimmer‏ @joshhzimmer Aug 14
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

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          What fintech innovation is protecting us from currency debasement?
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        1. Rabies‏ @hellorabies Aug 14
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          People continue to not see the difference between a savings account and a checking account.

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        1. The Conservative Indian‏ @ConservativeFN Aug 14
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          Probably not even secondarily

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        1. dstadulis‏ @dstadulis Aug 14
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          The fact that JP refuses to sell his bitcoin while lambasting bitcoin indicates how seriously he takes his critiques. History will view him as the yellow-pages sales boy decrying the Internet. Good luck selling shining rocks, JP.https://twitter.com/dstadulis/status/1152034845578551296 …

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          dstadulis @dstadulis
          I am very confused by JP. He constantly makes predictions about the future, bearish value of assets w/ high degree of confident. He must be a trazillionaire following all of his own analysis financial advice. How come he needs an employer? Latest analysis: BitCorns=chain letters https://twitter.com/jp_koning/status/1151882834841202688 …
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        2. Joe Kelly‏ @joekelly100 Aug 14
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          What is it about? Is it about an unforgeably costly representation of scarcity that’s easily verifiable and can be used for settling transactions in an environment of extreme mutual distrust?

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        3. Joe Kelly‏ @joekelly100 Aug 14
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          Because that’s cool (and I agree) but then Bitcoin has clearly limited growth potential. It’s only useful so far as there’s an environment of extreme mutual distrust. Otherwise much more efficient options will be available to do the same job, as OP implies.

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