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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 27
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      Replying to @mileskimball @vakeraj and

      That's the macroeconomic astrologhyer's fantasy, that stealing money from people's bank accounts will bring about a magical economy recovery.

      4 replies 3 retweets 65 likes
    2. Alonzito‏ @cryptoalonzito Jul 27
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @mileskimball and

      stealing as in devaluing currency or by actual theft

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 27
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      Replying to @cryptoalonzito @mileskimball and

      Actually taking the money. "Deep negative interest rates", or what was called a haircut in Cyprus.

      1 reply 0 retweets 21 likes
    4. Alonzito‏ @cryptoalonzito Jul 27
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @mileskimball and

      Damn. Heard about that but thought it was wildly out of bounds. Thanks for the reply.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 27
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      Replying to @cryptoalonzito @mileskimball and

      Despite this being an IMF paper, for the next few years at least "wildly out of bounds" is still probably more accurate in most places than "readily available measures". They have a whole spiel about how they need to introduce it slowly for it to become politically palatable.

      2 replies 1 retweet 16 likes
    6. Alonzito‏ @cryptoalonzito Jul 27
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @mileskimball and

      Imagine the exodus from savings accounts then

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 27
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      Replying to @cryptoalonzito @mileskimball and

      Their theory is that people will thereby be incentivized to spend the money as the alternative to having it stolen. Same as the Keynesian argument for inflation, only a more direct theft. They don't even mention gold, cryptocurrency, real estate, art, etc. as alternatives.

      4 replies 2 retweets 17 likes
    8. Alonzito‏ @cryptoalonzito Jul 27
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @mileskimball and

      Ah, interesting stimulus package

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 27
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      Replying to @cryptoalonzito @mileskimball and

      As in "may you live in interesting times." :-(

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    10. Alonzito‏ @cryptoalonzito Jul 27
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @mileskimball and

      I feel sick. If I'm comprehending this well enough, this whole thread deserves to be in all caps.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 27
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      Replying to @cryptoalonzito @mileskimball and

      Despite their idiotic rhetoric making the unprecedented sound routine, there are many hurdles, especially here in the U.S., where they will face a flurry of lawsuits to be heard by judges who studied contract and property law, not macroeconomic superstitions, in law school.

      9:18 PM - 27 Jul 2019
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        2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 27
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @cryptoalonzito and

          If I were in Europe I might well be worried though.

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. Vake  😷‏ @vakeraj Jul 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @cryptoalonzito and

          Vake  😷 Retweeted Miles Kimball

          Relax @NickSzabo4! They're specifically engineering the negative interest rates so that they only affect the wealthy!https://twitter.com/mileskimball/status/1155471449626296325 …

          Vake  😷 added,

          Miles Kimball @mileskimball
          Replying to @rvnflo @vakeraj and 2 others
          A crucial part of our proposal is specifically designed to preserve the nominal value of non-elitist wealth. We recommend the central bank use the interest-on-reserves formula to incentivize banks to provide zero (NOT NEGATIVE) rates for small checking and savings accounts.
          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Hanakookie‏ @Hanakookie1 Jul 28
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          Replying to @vakeraj @NickSzabo4 and

          Negative interest rates benefit the rich more. Even if you exclude them. They own assets too. Do the price of those assets increase while rates go lower. The rich will get richer dumping their bags on you.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Miles Kimball‏ @mileskimball Jul 28
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          Replying to @Hanakookie1 @vakeraj and

          There are a lot of things in our system that favor the rich that have nothing to do with the level of interest rates. If negative interest rates shine a light on how the rich are favored in ways that preexisted the negative rates, that is a good thing.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Miles Kimball‏ @mileskimball Jul 28
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          Replying to @mileskimball @Hanakookie1 and

          Actually, there is a lot of experience showing that the spreads between the interest rates the poor get and the rates of return the rich get narrow when interest rates are low. Under our plan, negative rates give those of modest means a higher return than the rich.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. DreamWeaver‏ @CEOofSleep Aug 29
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          Replying to @mileskimball @Hanakookie1 and

          Show me the data? Low rates causes massive amount inflow into assets like equity, housing...assets own by the rich. Poor people have their money and saving in the bank. The low interest rate environment is the cause of the widening income gap between rich and poor

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Aug 29
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          Replying to @CEOofSleep @mileskimball and

          Correct. Also, corporations now often pay only 2-3% for dollars, short steps away from the central bank spigot generating that money from thin air. The poor have to pay 20% on their credit cards.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. xcsler_returns ₿‏ @xcsler Jul 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @cryptoalonzito and

          I'm concerned they'd change the laws to fit their needs or issue an Executive Order regarding some 'nationwide economic emergency' justifying outlawing Bitcoin usage.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 28
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          Replying to @xcsler @cryptoalonzito and

          They will certainly try.

          0 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
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