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    1. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Jul 26
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      Replying to @fnietom @NickSzabo4 and

      Bitcoin is superior to gold precisely because it has much lower friction both in transactions (LN allows cheap trust-minimized payments) and storage (nothing can be cheaper to store than a private key and monetary inflation is fading out).

      2 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    2. George Selgin‏ @GeorgeSelgin Jul 26
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      Replying to @fnietom @NickSzabo4 and

      Transacting in Bitcoin may be cheaper than transacting in actual gold coins or bullion. But it isn't cheaper than transacting with bank-issued IOUs denominated in an redeemable in gold, particularly when those IOUs can be transferred electronically for next to nothing.

      6 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    3. George Selgin‏ @GeorgeSelgin Jul 26
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      Replying to @GeorgeSelgin @fnietom and

      One simple solution to Bitcoin's transaction-cost problem would be to build a banking system on a bitcoin standard. But then the bank-money transactions would not possess the same security and "pseudonymity" as ones conducted in bitcoin itself.

      4 replies 3 retweets 19 likes
    4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 26
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      Replying to @GeorgeSelgin @fnietom and

      Indeed, Hal Finney & I proposed this kind of thing, inspired by your and Lawrence White's historical research about free banking. We now have more trust-minimized versions of this "layer 2" technology, e.g. Lightning, which is fully & more securely collateralized than mere IOUs.

      6 replies 12 retweets 66 likes
    5. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Jul 26
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @GeorgeSelgin and

      Exactly, why would anybody hold BTC IOUs at par when they are riskier than the real thing. BTC credit will exist, but I don’t see it circulating as money, it’s economically irrational. This was only possible with gold because of its greater friction.

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 26
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      Replying to @fnietom @GeorgeSelgin and

      Gold's biggest flaw was difficulty of validation. That's why we ended up substituting coins for jewelry, and eventually bank note IOUs for coins. Coins were a semi-reliable way to outsource validation, and when it became too easy to counterfeit coins we switched to bank notes.

      3 replies 2 retweets 27 likes
    7. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Jul 26
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @GeorgeSelgin and

      And note that coins only made validation cheaper at the cost of introducing trust. This trust was often violated with debasement as a legal form of counterfeit.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Lawrence H. White‏ @lawrencehwhite1 Jul 26
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      Replying to @fnietom @NickSzabo4 and

      Debasement was "legal" when the mint was a state monopoly with sovereign immunity from prosecution for fraud. Competitive private silver and gold mints, where allowed, were subject to common law and were highly trustworthy. Like Engelhard, etc., are today.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 26
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      Replying to @lawrencehwhite1 @fnietom and

      Still vulnerable when used at retail to counterfeiting, though, taking advantage of the difficulties involved in assaying metals during retail transactions.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    10. Manuel Polavieja‏ @ManuelPolavieja Jul 26
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @lawrencehwhite1 and

      I am a bit confused. Historical evidence proves your point that gold was difficult to verify, but with a simple device like the one below I see rather easy to verify a standarized coin (specially before Tungstene was discovered)pic.twitter.com/Vral3pIvIJ

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 26
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      Replying to @ManuelPolavieja @lawrencehwhite1 and

      I've tried to talk a gold entrepreneur into developing & marketing personal assay tech with their gold, with seemingly no luck. P.S. easier to apply this tech to some pre-coinage jewelry designs, which were optimized for sampling & assay, than to coins which were not.pic.twitter.com/XuYoi6w52p

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        2. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Jul 26
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @ManuelPolavieja and

          That’s very interesting! I didn’t know that was the purpose of using wires.

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