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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 25
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      Replying to @Ragnarly @mathiasjimenez0 and

      Alas, cheap transportation and industrial era tools greatly inflated them and often made counterfeiting easy. Validation lore wasn't up to that challenge; secure validation became too expensive.

      3 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
    2. Ragnar Lifthrasir  🏴  🏛️‏ @Ragnarly Jul 25
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @mathiasjimenez0 and

      I recently learned how seriously Isaac Newton took his position as warden of the Royal Mint.pic.twitter.com/ExBjpo2fLH

      5 replies 5 retweets 46 likes
    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 25
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      Replying to @Ragnarly @mathiasjimenez0 and

      20% of coins were already counterfeit by his day. He may have delayed the inevitable, but during the remainder of the 18th century, the problem only got worse, driven by craftsmen of Birmingham who also gave us much of the industrial revolution.

      2 replies 0 retweets 27 likes
    4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 25
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @Ragnarly and

      By the end of the 18th century merchants had mostly given up on high-value coins in favor of harder to counterfeit bank notes, moving away from trust minimization by substituting IOUs for the actual metal. A trust that in the 20th century would be heavily abused.

      1 reply 9 retweets 41 likes
    5. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Jul 26
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @Ragnarly and

      I believe bullion friction (cost of weight and purity validation) lead to coinage. Counterfeiting was common at the time. This friction is frequently underestimated, but it pushed people away from trust-minimization to end up with trust-based paper money.https://www.academia.edu/4192184/A_Quantitative_Approach_to_the_Beginnings_of_Coinage …

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    6. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Jul 26
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      Replying to @fnietom @NickSzabo4 and

      Bitcoin is superior to gold precisely because it has much lower friction both in transactions (LN allows cheap trust-minimized payments) and storage (nothing can be cheaper to store than a private key and monetary inflation is fading out).

      2 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    7. George Selgin‏ @GeorgeSelgin Jul 26
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      Replying to @fnietom @NickSzabo4 and

      Transacting in Bitcoin may be cheaper than transacting in actual gold coins or bullion. But it isn't cheaper than transacting with bank-issued IOUs denominated in an redeemable in gold, particularly when those IOUs can be transferred electronically for next to nothing.

      6 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    8. George Selgin‏ @GeorgeSelgin Jul 26
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      Replying to @GeorgeSelgin @fnietom and

      One simple solution to Bitcoin's transaction-cost problem would be to build a banking system on a bitcoin standard. But then the bank-money transactions would not possess the same security and "pseudonymity" as ones conducted in bitcoin itself.

      4 replies 3 retweets 19 likes
    9. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 26
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      Replying to @GeorgeSelgin @fnietom and

      Indeed, Hal Finney & I proposed this kind of thing, inspired by your and Lawrence White's historical research about free banking. We now have more trust-minimized versions of this "layer 2" technology, e.g. Lightning, which is fully & more securely collateralized than mere IOUs.

      6 replies 12 retweets 66 likes
    10. Ragnar Lifthrasir  🏴  🏛️‏ @Ragnarly Jul 26
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @GeorgeSelgin and

      Link to your and Hal's proposal?

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 26
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      Replying to @Ragnarly @GeorgeSelgin and

      Selgin, White, Finney, Dai, and myself were on the libtech list where we discussed these ideas in mid 1998. It seems to only be implicit in my public bit gold writings, but Hal later expressly proposed it for bitcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2500.msg34211#msg34211 …

      10:01 AM - 26 Jul 2019
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        2. Mr.Hodl 🌕 🍿‏ @MrHodl Jul 26
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @Ragnarly and

          God damn it Nick. When's the book coming out?

          2 replies 0 retweets 34 likes
        3. kerbals‏ @kerbalz Jul 26
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          Replying to @MrHodl @NickSzabo4 and

          he wrote a 9 pager about 10 years ago that was a pretty good read

          0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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        1. Saiyan dude‏ @Kediri_020 Jul 26
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @Ragnarly and

          Permissionless banking 👍

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        1. David Doswell‏ @david_doswell Jul 26
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @Ragnarly and

          Yes, this was the post I read years ago. I thought you and Hal had a spec or further research published.

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