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    1. 6102bitcoin‏ @6102bitcoin Jul 19
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      Is L-BTC bitcoin? Please justify below.

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    2. 6102bitcoin‏ @6102bitcoin Jul 19
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      @pwuille @adam3us @notgrubles @Blockstream @chris_belcher_ @waxwing__ @francispouliot_ @matt_odell

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    3. 6102bitcoin‏ @6102bitcoin Jul 19
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      @NickSzabo4 @nvk @jimmysong @starkness @dstadulis @LukeDashjr @bitstein @MrHodl @giacomozucco @lopp @keonne @kallerosenbaum @StopAndDecrypt @orionwl @rusty_twit @brian_trollz @wiz @skwp

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    4. 6102bitcoin‏ @6102bitcoin Jul 19
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      I'm pretty confused as to how anyone could mistake the Liquid bitcoin token for actual Bitcoin, but clearly people are doing just that.

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    5. Ruben Somsen  ⚡️ 🇳 🅾️ 2️⃣ ❎‏ @SomsenRuben Jul 19
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      Ruben Somsen  ⚡️ 🇳 🅾️ 2️⃣ ❎ Retweeted Ruben Somsen  ⚡️ 🇳 🅾️ 2️⃣ ❎

      This is merely a confusion of definitions👥 You're defining "Bitcoin" as the thing you have trustless control over, others are defining "Bitcoin" as any asset that you will be able to gain trustless control over (i.e. IOUs, such as coins on an exchange).https://twitter.com/SomsenRuben/status/1147372639930839040 …

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      Ruben Somsen  ⚡️ 🇳 🅾️ 2️⃣ ❎ @SomsenRuben
      Replying to @jaybny
      Dollars on a bank are dollars. Bitcoins on an exchange are bitcoins. Bitcoins on Liquid are bitcoins. In all of these cases you're not the direct bearer of the underlying asset. It does lower the reliability of the asset, so the market could potentially value these IOUs less.
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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 21
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      Replying to @SomsenRuben @6102bitcoin

      There's a crucial distinction to be made here: bitcoins are not Bitcoins. BTW, during the free banking era, less reliable dollars did indeed trade at a discount to more reliable ones.

      5:23 PM - 21 Jul 2019
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        2. Martin Tan  🌮 ⚡️₿‏ @_MartinTan Jul 21
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @SomsenRuben @6102bitcoin

          so we will see different prices for btc on chain, LN and sidechain?

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 21
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          Probably only if enough sats on LN or the sidechains are at significant risk, so that people are willing to pay a premium to turn their sats into Sats. In this scenario exchanges could also be at risk, making determination of market price difficult.

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        1. Melik Manukyan  ⚡️ ⚡️ ⚡️ ⚡️ ⚡️‏ @melikmanukyan Jul 21
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @SomsenRuben @6102bitcoin

          This is exactly what happened to MtGox. Gox bitcoin became less reliable and highly risky; its price soon thereafter began decoupling from other exchanges.

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        2. Hasu‏ @hasufl Jul 21
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @SomsenRuben @6102bitcoin

          Are you sure discounts were due to reliability and not ease of arbitrage?

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        3. Hanakookie‏ @Hanakookie1 Jul 21
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          Replying to @hasufl @NickSzabo4 and

          They didn’t have arb like we do. Transport via stagecoach is a risky thing. Most of you should read up on the Free banking era. It’s a good part of history. But not good to repeat it. Very fragile. Multicoinism is a fragile system too. Benefits go to arb traders.

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        1. Ruben Somsen  ⚡️ 🇳 🅾️ 2️⃣ ❎‏ @SomsenRuben Jul 21
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          Ruben Somsen  ⚡️ 🇳 🅾️ 2️⃣ ❎ Retweeted Ruben Somsen  ⚡️ 🇳 🅾️ 2️⃣ ❎

          I agree that there is a distinction. My argument was purely linguistic:https://twitter.com/SomsenRuben/status/1152942406485938177 …

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          Replying to @fiatjaf @wiz @KevinKelbie
          Changing the default language does change how people think about it. Not many people realize there's a difference between $1 in your hand, $1 with bank A, and $1 with bank B. But influencing consensus is hard, and definitions tend to become broader over time (e.g. "Blockchain").
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