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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 17
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Nathaniel Whittemore

      Trusted third parties are security holes. To try to fix them without advanced computer science & copious computational resources, they inevitably end up being obsessed about governance. That's the layman's best clue that they are dealing with an insecure protocol.https://twitter.com/nlw/status/1151553014307704837 …

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      Nathaniel Whittemore @nlw
      Damn if this isn't going to turn into the largest, biggest, most intense crypto governance conversation
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    2. Ragnar Lifthrasir  🏴  🏛️‏ @Ragnarly Jul 17
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4

      The secure protocols you describe that I'm aware of are BitTorrent, Bitcoin, and some encrypted chat protocols. Any others?

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    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 17
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      Replying to @Ragnarly

      Hopefully some of the dexes, crypto holders may well need them soon.

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    4. Ragnar Lifthrasir  🏴  🏛️‏ @Ragnarly Jul 17
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4

      The fiat onramps are the neck of bitcoin where the State can and is effectively putting its boot. Taking "hodling" too far prevents a circular bitcoin economy where we can pay and get paid in bitcoin, which would mitigate dependence on fiat.

      4 replies 1 retweet 14 likes
    5. Tolga Guceri, CFA‏ @tag2drex Jul 17
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      Replying to @Ragnarly @NickSzabo4

      you need stable coin rails to do commerce. Let's be real, people don't own Bitcoin to spend it. Stable coins built on good protocols are the only hope for commerce to circulate in the crypto ecosystem.

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    6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 17
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      Replying to @tag2drex @Ragnarly

      You can't build stable coins on good protocols, see OT above.

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    7. Tolga Guceri, CFA‏ @tag2drex Jul 17
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @Ragnarly

      I'm a little lost. When I said good protocols, I mean ones such as Bitcoin. Not some centralized payment processor. Did you miss understand me, or am I reading you point wrong?

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    8. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 17
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      Replying to @tag2drex @Ragnarly

      A reliably stable coin that has the most important security characteristics of Bitcoin doesn't exist. Nobody AFAIK knows how to do it, and it may well be that it can't be done. So they sooner or later succumb to politics (Libra, it seems, sooner rather than later).

      5 replies 5 retweets 17 likes
    9. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Jul 17
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      I think we have all the knowledge needed to do this. Bitcoin holdings can be made stable by using derivatives to hedge price. And those derivatives can be implemented in a trust-minimized way by making difficulty and fees available to Bitcoin scripts.https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/bitcoins-hidden-proof-of-work-asset-4b4d086f73e2 …

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 17
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      Replying to @fnietom @tag2drex @Ragnarly

      Interesting idea, I don't discourage pursuit of it, but seems to depend on an unlikely distant future where electricity is never highly subsidized and hardware innovation is no longer possible. And the stable coin will have to pay a big risk premium to the much-less-stable-coin.

      3:55 PM - 17 Jul 2019
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        1. Fernando Nieto‏ @fnietom Jul 18
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          If the maturity of derivatives is short enough (eg. daily) longer term changes in electricity price and HW efficiency are not very important. They are also quite stable and easier to forecast. In the longer term, I believe bitcoin will be the stable coin.

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