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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 3 May 2018
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Mr.Hodl 🌕 🍿

      Gold has severe flaws. Physical locality makes it less secure and far more transactionally local, and thus more vulnerable to politics and less sound, than we can now achieve with Bitcoin, with good key management and taking advantage of its trust-minimized global settlement.https://twitter.com/MrHodl/status/991676293052813312 …

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      Mr.Hodl 🌕 🍿 @MrHodl
      Get inside the mind of a BCasher. "My view is the world was not in need of another sound base money when Bitcoin came along. Nor is that the main innovation Bitcoin brings to the table.The world has had sound base money for thousands of years... gold coins, silver bars, etc." https://twitter.com/ChrisPacia/status/991450241219092480 …
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    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 3 May 2018
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      Aztecs took gold tribute from their subject tribes. Spanish conquistadors looted the Aztecs. Sir Francis Drake looted Spanish galleons. Seizing gold vaults was a universal war objective. Many politicians have controlled monetary systems by controlling gold. Now we can do better.pic.twitter.com/pg33pZLJCK

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    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 27
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      Probably the biggest flaw with the monetary metals (gold, sil er, and copper) is that they are costly to assay/validate. This led making people vulnerable to (i.e. requiring them to trust) centralized entities such as coin minters and bank note issuers, said trust often abused.

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    4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 29
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      Some of the same craft skills & tech that gave us the industrial revolution also made it much easier to counterfeit coins. As fake coins spread, use of bank notes grew. Here's a fake silver dollar made in Birmingham via a technique invented in Sheffield. https://www.coincommunity.com/articles/swamperbob_8_reales_birmingham_counterfeit.asp …pic.twitter.com/Qbx7heTq2p

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    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 6
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Michael Goldstein

      Bank notes further increased trust, i.e. vulnerability. to the actions of third parties. Gold came to be held in centralized vaults, and IOUs for much more than the gold actually held were issued -- fractional reserve banking (FRB).https://twitter.com/bitstein/status/1145438009636085760 …

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      Michael Goldstein @bitstein
      Replying to @BurakYngn @NickSzabo4
      It's not a short read, but I would recommend "Money, Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles" by Jesús Huerta de Soto above all else as the best treatment on the subject. It explains the problems with FRB from an economic, legal, and historical perspective. https://mises.org/library/money-bank-credit-and-economic-cycles …
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    6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 6
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      Governments helped set up the largest banks, which printed even more bank notes and used them to buy government debt. These banks became (Bank of England) or were set up as (Federal Reserve) note-issuing monopolies, which we now call central banks.

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    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 6
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      Eventually default turned these gold IOU paper notes into fiat. BofE started refusing to honor its notes in 1931. The Fed reduced the amount of gold it would redeem a dollar for in 1933, restricted gold trade by targeting the centralized bank vaults, and went full fiat in 1971.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 6
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      Here's an example showing how, despite authority resemblance https://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2016/07/artifacts-of-wealth-patterns-in_15.html … the fundamental nature of U.S. dollars radically changed over the course of the 20th century. They look very similar, but the kind of money they represent is radically different. ht @jp_koningpic.twitter.com/JF7KifIcXJ

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        2. Kurt Kumar‏ @KurtKumar Oct 8
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          At some point; “REDEEMABLE IN BITCOIN ON DEMAND AT THE UNITED STATES TREASURY OR AT ANY FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Oct 8
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          Replying to @KurtKumar @jp_koning

          Lightning more reliable for that than a bank note.

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        2. Jonathan Hineline‏ @raging_crypto Oct 8
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          So cash I debt? Why would anyone ever hold a large amount of this?

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Oct 8
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          Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Nick Szabo  🔑

          Because coins became too easy to counterfeit.https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/1145207850727178241 …

          Nick Szabo  🔑 added,

          Nick Szabo  🔑 @NickSzabo4
          Some of the same craft skills & tech that gave us the industrial revolution also made it much easier to counterfeit coins. As fake coins spread, use of bank notes grew. Here's a fake silver dollar made in Birmingham via a technique invented in Sheffield. https://www.coincommunity.com/articles/swamperbob_8_reales_birmingham_counterfeit.asp … pic.twitter.com/Qbx7heTq2p
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        4. Jonathan Hineline‏ @raging_crypto Oct 8
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          I understand why paper money was created. Just don’t understand why anyone today would hold these notes as they valued under par

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        5. Coin Education‏ @coineducation_ Oct 8
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          Replying to @raging_crypto @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          They'd hold it because it's a lot harder to confiscate the physical. They hold it incase an ATM all of a sudden caps the withdrawal amount or just runs out of money. It's also a lot harder to trace transactions.... to name a few use cases...

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        2. BITCOIN • XRP • LTC Jedi  🚀‏ @Bitcoin_Jedi Oct 7
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          Updated with the next version!pic.twitter.com/XotFkumfej

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        1. TonyWhomever‏ @TonyWhomever Jul 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @BrendanEich @jp_koning

          It's like the US treasury absolved itself entirely from any obligation to the redeemer. It might as well be play money.

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        2. kryptoid‏ @elkryptoid Jul 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          A lot of people forget that precious metals themselves have a fiat system sitting on top of them. Once you make IOU/paper money, it all comes down to printing. If you don't hold it, you don't own it. Private keys and metals!

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        2. Manuel Polavieja‏ @ManuelPolavieja Jul 7
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          A very interesting fact is that even the latter bill represents a self-obligation from the issuer to accept it to cancel debts. That is, it is still a liability of the issuer despite of being irredeemable.

          3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Manuel Polavieja‏ @ManuelPolavieja Jul 7
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          Replying to @ManuelPolavieja @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          Nick, regarding #bitcoin, what do you think of viewing it as an useful abstract mathematical set like the numerals of the decimal numeric system or the Gregorian calendar? This concept would be beyond the technology. Technology would just follow the concept.

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        4. Manuel Polavieja‏ @ManuelPolavieja Jul 7
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          Replying to @ManuelPolavieja @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          That is, no one could be fooled that February has 31 days because some implementation of a calendar says so. The same would apply to bitcoin for any implementation that deviates from what the market demands from bitcoin as a concept.

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        2. SophieFoxx2000‏ @SFoxx2000 Jul 7
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          a thing that concerns me about gold is that the government, in times of crisis, will -always- try to take away your privately owned gold. see the US executive order 6102 (1933) during the great depression or the banking act in Australia in 1959.

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        3. Ya to the square‏ @y_gordon Aug 12
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          Replying to @SFoxx2000 @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          They cannot confiscate gold today. 1933 was easy and could not be replicated easily today. Watch this video from 14:14 minutes onhttps://youtu.be/1mI8Lek60_w 

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        1. midnight‏ @midmagic Aug 19
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          That's a really nice article: thank you.

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        1. David DeSantis‏ @PilotDaveCrypto Aug 19
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          They just made it "lawful" and no longer required the disclosure. :p

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        1. QUEWB‏ @QUEWB Jul 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jp_koning

          there needs to be a new version for Libra

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