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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 3 May 2018
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Mr.Hodl 🌕 🍿

      Gold has severe flaws. Physical locality makes it less secure and far more transactionally local, and thus more vulnerable to politics and less sound, than we can now achieve with Bitcoin, with good key management and taking advantage of its trust-minimized global settlement.https://twitter.com/MrHodl/status/991676293052813312 …

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      Mr.Hodl 🌕 🍿 @MrHodl
      Get inside the mind of a BCasher. "My view is the world was not in need of another sound base money when Bitcoin came along. Nor is that the main innovation Bitcoin brings to the table.The world has had sound base money for thousands of years... gold coins, silver bars, etc." https://twitter.com/ChrisPacia/status/991450241219092480 …
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    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 3 May 2018
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      Aztecs took gold tribute from their subject tribes. Spanish conquistadors looted the Aztecs. Sir Francis Drake looted Spanish galleons. Seizing gold vaults was a universal war objective. Many politicians have controlled monetary systems by controlling gold. Now we can do better.pic.twitter.com/pg33pZLJCK

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    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 27
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      Probably the biggest flaw with the monetary metals (gold, sil er, and copper) is that they are costly to assay/validate. This led making people vulnerable to (i.e. requiring them to trust) centralized entities such as coin minters and bank note issuers, said trust often abused.

      44 replies 230 retweets 1,014 likes
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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 29
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      Some of the same craft skills & tech that gave us the industrial revolution also made it much easier to counterfeit coins. As fake coins spread, use of bank notes grew. Here's a fake silver dollar made in Birmingham via a technique invented in Sheffield. https://www.coincommunity.com/articles/swamperbob_8_reales_birmingham_counterfeit.asp …pic.twitter.com/Qbx7heTq2p

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        2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 6
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          Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Michael Goldstein

          Bank notes further increased trust, i.e. vulnerability. to the actions of third parties. Gold came to be held in centralized vaults, and IOUs for much more than the gold actually held were issued -- fractional reserve banking (FRB).https://twitter.com/bitstein/status/1145438009636085760 …

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          Michael Goldstein @bitstein
          Replying to @BurakYngn @NickSzabo4
          It's not a short read, but I would recommend "Money, Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles" by Jesús Huerta de Soto above all else as the best treatment on the subject. It explains the problems with FRB from an economic, legal, and historical perspective. https://mises.org/library/money-bank-credit-and-economic-cycles …
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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 6
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          Governments helped set up the largest banks, which printed even more bank notes and used them to buy government debt. These banks became (Bank of England) or were set up as (Federal Reserve) note-issuing monopolies, which we now call central banks.

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        4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 6
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          Eventually default turned these gold IOU paper notes into fiat. BofE started refusing to honor its notes in 1931. The Fed reduced the amount of gold it would redeem a dollar for in 1933, restricted gold trade by targeting the centralized bank vaults, and went full fiat in 1971.

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        5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 6
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          Here's an example showing how, despite authority resemblance https://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2016/07/artifacts-of-wealth-patterns-in_15.html … the fundamental nature of U.S. dollars radically changed over the course of the 20th century. They look very similar, but the kind of money they represent is radically different. ht @jp_koningpic.twitter.com/JF7KifIcXJ

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        2. Louis Liu‏ @louishliu Oct 8
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          Louis Liu Retweeted Louis Liu

          https://twitter.com/louishliu/status/1178043012078813184?s=21 …

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          Louis Liu @louishliu
          One Dollar Sivler Certificate by Victor Dubreuil is painted in 19 century when counterfeiting of legal tender was a problem. At least two of his paintings were confiscated by the Secret Service in 1890s This era reminds me a lot what is going on today Bitcoin fixs this pic.twitter.com/me0Zjp8qc6
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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Oct 8
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          Replying to @louishliu

          Still harder to counterfeit and pass, and easier for retailers to detect counterfeits, than for coins.

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        2. Burak Yenigun‏ @BurakYngn Jun 29
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4

          Have you considered the possibility that gold’s price elasticity of supply is a *must have* feature that makes gold sound money? Conversely, bitcoin’s perfectly inelastic supply (there can ever be 21m) makes it terrible as money due to lack of stabilization mechanismspic.twitter.com/VBqKrXOl7e

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        3. Michael Goldstein‏ @bitstein Jun 30
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          Replying to @BurakYngn @NickSzabo4

          This ignores why the business cycle happens in the first place, which is due to artificially low interest rates. Elastic supply isn’t necessary, and you wouldn’t even need to consider it if bankers didn’t (or couldn’t) lend fractional reserves in the first place.

          1 reply 0 retweets 18 likes
        4. Burak Yenigun‏ @BurakYngn Jun 30
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          Replying to @bitstein @NickSzabo4

          “Business cycles happens due to artificially low interest rates” <- I was going to ignore this hilariously naive comment but it attracted a like from Nick Szabo himself 🤦‍♂️. Best of luck with your “store of value” project guys.

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        5. Michael Goldstein‏ @bitstein Jun 30
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          Replying to @BurakYngn @NickSzabo4

          Nobel Prize-winning economic theories are naive? https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/economic-sciences/1974/press-release/ … I’m impressed with your chutzpah. I’d have a hard time gathering the courage to call Mises and Hayek naive!

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        6. Burak Yenigun‏ @BurakYngn Jun 30
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          Replying to @bitstein @NickSzabo4

          Did Hayek ever say business cycles began happening *only* after the invention of fractional reserve banking? If so, I guess this’d be the first time a Nobel winning economist is wrong

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Michael Goldstein‏ @bitstein Jun 30
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          Replying to @BurakYngn @NickSzabo4

          Fractional reserve banking is a much older scam than 1913. Read a history book.

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        2. Brian Cohen‏ @inthepixels Jul 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4

          I prefer fake gold coins made out of platinum https://books.google.com/books?id=xriMAgAAQBAJ&lpg=PA20&dq=made%20counterfeit%20using%20platinum%20thought%20worthless%20gold&pg=PA20#v=onepage&q&f=false …pic.twitter.com/H4eaPwE5jU

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        3. Gabriel D Vine  🧞‍♂️ ✨‏ @GabrielDVine Jul 6
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          Replying to @inthepixels @NickSzabo4

          spot platinum currently ~40% cheaper!

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        2. Jeremy Decentralized‏ @jdecentralized Jun 29
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4

          yes golds greatest flaw is that it requires the holder to be in safe stable country to enjoy their holdings. Gold holdings would not survive a despotic regime or a confiscatory one.

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        3. Jeremy Decentralized‏ @jdecentralized Jun 29
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          Replying to @jdecentralized @NickSzabo4

          ask a gold bug how they plan to move 100k or even 100million of gold across the border

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Boulevard A., Esq.‏ @BoulevardLP Jul 2
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          Replying to @jdecentralized @NickSzabo4

          They'll tokenise 'em #gold. No need transporting...

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        5. Bitcoin Talks‏ @prentic4 Aug 11
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          Replying to @BoulevardLP @jdecentralized @NickSzabo4

          Token holders have to trust whoever is storing their gold.

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        6. Boulevard A., Esq.‏ @BoulevardLP Aug 12
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          Replying to @prentic4 @jdecentralized @NickSzabo4

          Yes, but the gold storage trust talking point is all secondary, when the transaction has been settled in #tokens.

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