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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Lec‏ @Lec29560622 Jun 28
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @josephskewes

      Just compare the cost and steps involved to validate, secure and transport bitcoin vs metals. The benefits and cost savings when using bitcoin is enormous. Even the most bullish gold bug knows this but they might not say it publicly of course.

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    2. Joseph Skewes‏ @josephskewes Jun 28
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      Replying to @Lec29560622 @NickSzabo4

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      I don't believe it's that simple. I can independently transport (on my person) & transact a high value quantity of gold. @roysebag makes the argument (rightfully) that bitcoin requires substantial infrastructure to do the same.https://twitter.com/josephskewes/status/1132093163114356738 …

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      "..behind the virtual act [transferring Bitcoin], what is, in actuality, enabling all of this to take place is massive amounts of physical infrastructure in the natural world, comprised of computational hardware, energy transformers, physical space, and human computer engineers." pic.twitter.com/9vMH1JkWIe
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    3. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag Jun 28
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      Replying to @josephskewes @Lec29560622 @NickSzabo4

      The idea that assaying or "validating" pure gold is a difficult task is imho a myth. The whole reason gold as an element ascended as money is due our ability as humans to employ kinesthetic, taste, smell (gold has no taste or smell) sense perceptions to validate it vs. others.

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    4. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag Jun 28
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      Holding gold in your hand, burning it with a lighter, biting into it, smelling it, tasting it with your tongue, exposing it to water, etc. are all very easy ways to decentrally and self-evidently verify it to be unique to everything else. X-Ray, chemical assays, are also cheap.

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    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 28
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      Replying to @roysebag @josephskewes @Lec29560622

      Cheap, easy, reliable: pick one. Far short of being good enough for typical retail transactions. Why coins were invented millennia ago. With modern spectroscopy could do better, but would have to redesign form factor of jewelry to be suitable for random sampling & quick spectro.

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    6. ♤ReaI Phil Ivory♤‏ @RealPhilIvory Jun 28
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @roysebag and

      Consensus = vote . Democracies are a bad idea, especially when it comes to money. Gold's properties are hard coded into the organic ledger system that requires no power to maintain security.

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    7. ♤ReaI Phil Ivory♤‏ @RealPhilIvory Jun 28
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    8. ♤ReaI Phil Ivory♤‏ @RealPhilIvory Jun 28
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      Replying to @RealPhilIvory @NickSzabo4 and

      Cc @PeterSchiff this is the knockout blow for your next gold vs Bitcoin debate. They never have an answer for me, not even Satoshi Nakamoto ! Bitcoin is secured via a vote !

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    9. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 28
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      Replying to @RealPhilIvory @roysebag and

      It's not a vote. The first definition is closer to what's going on, but still misses the point that a full node can cryptographically validate for itself, it doesn't have to tryst anybody in that regard.

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    10. ♤ReaI Phil Ivory♤‏ @RealPhilIvory Jun 28
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @roysebag and

      But won't the overall networks larger hash power reject that nodes work/transactions? I get that it could run in tandom to the larger network but wouldn't that node be it's own mini fork at that point ?

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 28
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      Replying to @RealPhilIvory @roysebag and

      51% can only censor or double-spend, and only for as long as it maintains the >50%, it can't fake transactions, make extra new money, etc.

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        2. ♤ReaI Phil Ivory♤‏ @RealPhilIvory Jun 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @roysebag and

          I guess my point is if the "mob" wants to change what bitcoin is, basically a voluntary hard fork, a voluntary permanent "51% attack" if say it was ever adopted world wide/mainstream. Like say some Keynesians talked majority into believing higher inflation was good type thing.

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        3. Joseph Skewes‏ @josephskewes Jun 28
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          Replying to @RealPhilIvory @NickSzabo4 and

          Bitcoin's scarcity being governed by an economic majority through consensus poses a real risk over the long term. Hard money advocates do better to keep bitcoin owned by those with similar mindsets rather than selling it to the masses. Gold's natural scarcity is superior IMO.

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        4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 28
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          Replying to @josephskewes @RealPhilIvory and

          Proof-of-work provides a fallback strategy of natural scarcity if the 21m limit fails.

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