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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 3 May 2018
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Mr.Hodl 🌕 🍿

      Gold has severe flaws. Physical locality makes it less secure and far more transactionally local, and thus more vulnerable to politics and less sound, than we can now achieve with Bitcoin, with good key management and taking advantage of its trust-minimized global settlement.https://twitter.com/MrHodl/status/991676293052813312 …

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      Mr.Hodl 🌕 🍿 @MrHodl
      Get inside the mind of a BCasher. "My view is the world was not in need of another sound base money when Bitcoin came along. Nor is that the main innovation Bitcoin brings to the table.The world has had sound base money for thousands of years... gold coins, silver bars, etc." https://twitter.com/ChrisPacia/status/991450241219092480 …
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    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 3 May 2018
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      Aztecs took gold tribute from their subject tribes. Spanish conquistadors looted the Aztecs. Sir Francis Drake looted Spanish galleons. Seizing gold vaults was a universal war objective. Many politicians have controlled monetary systems by controlling gold. Now we can do better.pic.twitter.com/pg33pZLJCK

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    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 27
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      Probably the biggest flaw with the monetary metals (gold, sil er, and copper) is that they are costly to assay/validate. This led making people vulnerable to (i.e. requiring them to trust) centralized entities such as coin minters and bank note issuers, said trust often abused.

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    4. Joseph Skewes‏ @josephskewes Jun 27
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      I agree that an indiscernible gold ingot can be more difficult to irrefutably test than bitcoin (performing a water displacement test is not costly & accurate in most situations.). Realistically though, almost all buyers of gold or bitcoin rely on centralised entities.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 27
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      You exaggerate. I and many other Bitcoin users validate for ourselves. It's quite easy.

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        2. Lec‏ @Lec29560622 Jun 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @josephskewes

          Just compare the cost and steps involved to validate, secure and transport bitcoin vs metals. The benefits and cost savings when using bitcoin is enormous. Even the most bullish gold bug knows this but they might not say it publicly of course.

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        3. Joseph Skewes‏ @josephskewes Jun 28
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          Joseph Skewes Retweeted Joseph Skewes

          I don't believe it's that simple. I can independently transport (on my person) & transact a high value quantity of gold. @roysebag makes the argument (rightfully) that bitcoin requires substantial infrastructure to do the same.https://twitter.com/josephskewes/status/1132093163114356738 …

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          "..behind the virtual act [transferring Bitcoin], what is, in actuality, enabling all of this to take place is massive amounts of physical infrastructure in the natural world, comprised of computational hardware, energy transformers, physical space, and human computer engineers." pic.twitter.com/9vMH1JkWIe
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        4. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag Jun 28
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          Replying to @josephskewes @Lec29560622 @NickSzabo4

          The idea that assaying or "validating" pure gold is a difficult task is imho a myth. The whole reason gold as an element ascended as money is due our ability as humans to employ kinesthetic, taste, smell (gold has no taste or smell) sense perceptions to validate it vs. others.

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        5. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag Jun 28
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          Holding gold in your hand, burning it with a lighter, biting into it, smelling it, tasting it with your tongue, exposing it to water, etc. are all very easy ways to decentrally and self-evidently verify it to be unique to everything else. X-Ray, chemical assays, are also cheap.

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        6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jun 28
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          Replying to @roysebag @josephskewes @Lec29560622

          Cheap, easy, reliable: pick one. Far short of being good enough for typical retail transactions. Why coins were invented millennia ago. With modern spectroscopy could do better, but would have to redesign form factor of jewelry to be suitable for random sampling & quick spectro.

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        2. Joseph Skewes‏ @josephskewes Jun 27
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4

          Majority of people buying bitcoin are doing so on a centralised exchange, do you disagree? That seems to be the reality. They can validate after purchase more easily, but I can buy from a bullion dealer with an XRF machine to test on the spot.

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        3. Štěpán Fau‏ @steve_fau Jun 27
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          Replying to @josephskewes @NickSzabo4

          I agree with the fact that majority of ppl are buying BTC on a centralised exchange. But let's be honest - validating BTC vs. owning a XRF to validate gold? We shouldn't be losing energy discussing what's easier.

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        4. Joseph Skewes‏ @josephskewes Jun 28
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          Replying to @steve_fau @NickSzabo4

          If you validate with an XRF at the time of purchase, what need is there to own your own? Water displacement test + acid test likely to verify 99.9% of gold. I agreed testing bitcoin is easier, but I also think the vast majority of bitcoin buyers rely on centralised entities.

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        5. CΔRLΘS‏ @CosmosIsWithin Jun 28
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          Replying to @josephskewes @steve_fau @NickSzabo4

          *to buy. Not validate. Also, it's been around for just 10y, it will only get easier, faster, more secure and private

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        6. Joseph Skewes‏ @josephskewes Jun 28
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          Replying to @CosmosIsWithin @steve_fau @NickSzabo4

          The only time I am interested in validating is when I buy.

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        7. Kristaps Kaupe‏ @kristapsk Jun 28
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          Replying to @josephskewes @CosmosIsWithin and

          You don't buy BTC at the moment you click the buy button at centralized exchange, you get BTC IOU / fix the price. You get actual BTC only when you withdraw to your wallet. Then you can and should validate.

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        1. Sambodhi Prem‏ @SambodhiPrem Jun 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @josephskewes

          cc @CasaHODL

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        1. George‏ @Gkaros27 Oct 8
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @josephskewes

          Nick thank you for your work. when will my grandma be able to validate herself? In order to see mass adoption in bitcoin don’t we need it to be that easy? How close are we? Rather see individuals adopt bitcoin before the institutions! There is still time.

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        1. BitGoldNinja‏ @BitGoldNinja Jun 27
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @josephskewes

          Nick when will we see what you guys are doing with Global Financial Access? Are you guys building on Bitcoin or Ethereum, or both?

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