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    1. Jill Carlson‏ @jillruthcarlson Mar 3
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      Genuinely not trying to fear monger, but as a concerned customer it would be great if @coinbase could provide clarity around the statement from one of their reps that their analytics provider sold client data to 3rd parties. Paging @brian_armstrong.https://cheddar.com/videos/coinbase-adds-support-for-ripple-s-xrp-despite-regulatory-uncertainty …

      12 replies 26 retweets 169 likes
    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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      Replying to @jillruthcarlson @_jillruth and

      Not sure what is so surprising about this?

      4 replies 2 retweets 65 likes
    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @_jillruth and

      Put it this way: for which businesses in the crypto space who KYC/AML' their customers do you have strong expectation that they are not and never will share such information? Why do you have such expectations?

      17 replies 25 retweets 103 likes
    4. Adam Back‏ @adam3us Mar 3
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @_jillruth and

      I think a reasonable person would expect information to not be shared other than as disclosed a-priori, and as required to conduct business. And for external access: for reasonable efforts to screen requests for legal authority and rationale for access.

      7 replies 2 retweets 32 likes
    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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      Replying to @adam3us @_jillruth and

      I know many people think that is a reasonable expectation, but in fact it certainly is not.

      2 replies 1 retweet 23 likes
    6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @adam3us and

      P.S. take a shot at answering the question, which centralized entity that collects KYC/AML info in this space are you highly confident is much less likely to share it, whether accidentally or intentionally, than Coinbase?

      6 replies 0 retweets 20 likes
    7. EzraG‏ @The_EzraG Mar 3
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @adam3us and

      @CashApp

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    8. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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      Replying to @The_EzraG @adam3us and

      Based on what evidence? Have you compared CashApp's internal data control processes, policies, and security mechanisms with Coinbase's (n.b. they are both based in San Francisco, i.e. same jurisdiction, very similar professional and cultural backgrounds).

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    9. EzraG‏ @The_EzraG Mar 3
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @adam3us and

      I have not & do not believe that this info or access would b available 2 either @CashApp or @coinbase customers. If it was I would like 2 review it; given the amount of services @Square provides without any reports of a data breach imo they r less likely 2 share ur info then CB.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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      Replying to @The_EzraG @adam3us and

      Therefore the most honest thing for you and 99.9% of other people in this space not privy to this knowledge is to withold strong opinions about the relative merits of CashApp, Coinbase, and any other parties trusted with KYC/AML info in this space, to protect such information.

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        2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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          What could they say that would not be misleading yet would satisfy people who divulged personal info? That they screwed up like every major data gatherer has and/or will do in the KYC/AML business? That the pretense that KYC/AML regs can be consistent with privacy is fraudulent?

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        3. Griffdaddyfresh‏ @gtereault Mar 3
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @The_EzraG and

          How does one decentralize an exchange, remain compliant with regulation and profitable? Are there such exchanges?

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        4. Niyi Dada‏ @niyid Mar 4
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          Replying to @gtereault @NickSzabo4 and

          Look to the Binance example. Of course they started out as centralized; but with the popularity of the platform (user base), all they have to do to remain profitable is charge premiums on transactions. Let's see how it goes for them; others can follow.

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        5. Griffdaddyfresh‏ @gtereault Mar 4
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          Replying to @niyid @NickSzabo4 and

          I like Binance but they are not decentralized. They are arguably less centralized than others, but that’s the point in all this. Exchanges have been centralized and may always will be. They hold the Bitcoin. Get it from them and get it away from them.

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        6. Niyi Dada‏ @niyid Mar 4
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          Replying to @gtereault @NickSzabo4 and

          https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-offers-token-rewards-for-testing-new-decentralized-platform …

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          7. End of conversation
        1. EzraG‏ @The_EzraG Mar 3
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4

          I agree; awareness is really the goal. Without conversations like these no one learns anything.

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