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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Jill Carlson‏ @jillruthcarlson Mar 3
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      Genuinely not trying to fear monger, but as a concerned customer it would be great if @coinbase could provide clarity around the statement from one of their reps that their analytics provider sold client data to 3rd parties. Paging @brian_armstrong.https://cheddar.com/videos/coinbase-adds-support-for-ripple-s-xrp-despite-regulatory-uncertainty …

      12 replies 26 retweets 169 likes
    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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      Replying to @jillruthcarlson @_jillruth and

      Not sure what is so surprising about this?

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    3. Jill Carlson‏ @jillruthcarlson Mar 3
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @coinbase @brian_armstrong

      Selling data is very different from collecting it for regulatory purposes. I consented to Coinbase collecting my data for KYC/AML purposes. I did not knowingly consent to Coinbase collecting my data to sell to other parties.

      2 replies 3 retweets 24 likes
    4. Lyle Pratt‏ @lylepratt Mar 3
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      Replying to @jillruthcarlson @_jillruth and

      Can you link to something that shows Coinbase sold data to other parties?

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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      Replying to @lylepratt @_jillruth and

      It sounds like they shared data with a contractor who needed it to do the job Coinbase asked them to do, then the contractor shared if further, now it's out of Coinbase's control. Very typical thing to happen to data, it can, has, and will happen to every major KYC/AML'd entity.

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        2. Jill Carlson‏ @jillruthcarlson Mar 3
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @lylepratt and

          I guess I naively continue to put too much faith in legal contracts and the like! Only in this community can I be painted as an optimist 🙈

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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          Replying to @jillruthcarlson @_jillruth and

          So sue Coinbase and let us know how it works out. Good luck!

          1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
        4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @_jillruth and

          Try to get an injunction to have all copies of the shared KYC/AML data that now exist in the world wiped. 😀🤣

          2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        5. Cian Lynch‏ @CianBLynch Mar 3
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @_jillruth and

          Szabo, I'm surprised you won't give us a break for asking questions about how our data is being shared. I am grateful that people are asking questions. Imagine how much info would go under the radar if nobody asked questions about potential privacy breaches.

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        6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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          Replying to @CianBLynch @_jillruth and

          I'm all in favor of asking questions. Good luck getting straightforward and verifiable answers in an area, data sharing with strangers, that lends itself well to neither.

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        8. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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          Replying to @CianBLynch @_jillruth and

          Users have been telling centralized digital entities they care about their privacy since day 1 on the intenret. Not much has come of it. It's just way too easy to copy information, and it's just information about some strangers.

          1 reply 4 retweets 22 likes
        9. Cian Lynch‏ @CianBLynch Mar 3
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @_jillruth and

          I get it, maybe some of us are fighting a losing or never ending battle. Does that mean we should give up? Or probably refocus our efforts elsewhere. I am guessing the latter.

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        2. Lyle Pratt‏ @lylepratt Mar 3
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @_jillruth and

          I get that and agree with your points in other threads that this shouldn’t be surprising. However saying Coinbase “collected data to sell to other parties” is inaccurate and unhelpful.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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          Replying to @lylepratt @_jillruth and

          It doesn't matter if sold it or gave it away by accident, the end effect to customers is the same, the data was shared, it's out of Coinbase's control and doubly out of the control of Coinbase's customers who shared this data to headline-epitomized strangers in the first place.

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        2. Los Angeles Zcashⓩ Users Group  🦓 😷 🦓‏ @zcashla Mar 3
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @lylepratt and

          Does not need to "happen to every major KYC/AML entity'" right? Consider: 'An encrypted memo field allows the Sender to attach information to a shielded transaction, facilitating compliance with the Bank Secrecy Act’s “Travel” rule.'http://Z.cash/compliance 

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 3
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          Replying to @zcashla @lylepratt and

          Might work. It's an interesting approach. But at some point somebody has to decrypt and copy that data to use it (modulo the rare multiparty private computation), at which point it has been shared with that person's app, which could easily cache that data, share if further etc.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        4. Los Angeles Zcashⓩ Users Group  🦓 😷 🦓‏ @zcashla Mar 3
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @lylepratt and

          Searching and seizing my personal data must be warranted, by court order! Else, I will not give them my viewing keys! Right?

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