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    1. Conner Brown‏ @_ConnerBrown_ Feb 25
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      1/8 This thinking just shows that even top academics don’t know what money is. They can literally think only in debt. I’ve encountered this same thinking from many top economists. https://twitter.com/zackvoell/status/1100172115477700608 …

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    2. Conner Brown‏ @_ConnerBrown_ Feb 25
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      2/ Traditionally, debt would be used for trusted transaction where you could ensure it would be paid back based on prior history, collateral, or income. On the other hand, final settlement assets would be used for trustless transactions such as gold coins, seashells, beads, etc

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    3. Conner Brown‏ @_ConnerBrown_ Feb 25
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      3/ Each of these have very specific social uses. Debt and credit assets are used with people you trust. Final settlement assets for those that you can’t trust, or don’t need to.

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    4. Conner Brown‏ @_ConnerBrown_ Feb 25
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      4/ For example, when trading with a potential stranger, you would want to use the trustless money. Debt cannot be used as the stranger may may lie to you about repayment, or be impossible to locate.

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    5. Conner Brown‏ @_ConnerBrown_ Feb 25
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      5/ With global use of fiat currency, we have forgotten the other half of the monetary equation. Our monetary base is created by lending to ourselves, skipping the restraints of trust, and allowing central bank balance sheets to skyrocketpic.twitter.com/56xSg0aj0Z

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    6. Conner Brown‏ @_ConnerBrown_ Feb 25
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      6/ But as we all know, the party has to stop eventually. Debt: the first 5000 years is littered with examples of societies monetizing debt and falling to pieces. (Note, even Graeber seems to ignore the important trustless forms of money in his book).

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    7. Conner Brown‏ @_ConnerBrown_ Feb 25
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      7/ This is why economists can’t understand bitcoin. They haven’t seen trustless money in decades! Debt is the only form of money they know. By the time they understand, it will be too late.

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    8. Conner Brown‏ @_ConnerBrown_ Feb 25
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      8/8 For more reading on this, I highly recommend @NickSzabo4’s work “Shelling Out” and Menger’s “On the Origins of Money”, both are great! @stephanlivera’s podcast is also a great resource for learning about the monetary theory of bitcoin. ⚡️

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    9. Nick Rowe‏ @MacRoweNick Feb 25
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      Not All (retired) Academic Monetary Economists Are Like That. I am perfectly comfortable with the idea of a Zero Coupon Perpetuity. (Provided it's liquid enough and people value liquidity enough to compensate for the lack of coupon.) Old post:https://worthwhile.typepad.com/worthwhile_canadian_initi/2016/07/simple-basic-money-for-finance-people.html …

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      You;re making a good example of the ORs claim that economists are so obsessed with debt that they've forgotten about non-debt, trust-minimized money. There's no need to invoke gratuitous interpretations such as "Zero Coupon Perpetuity." It's simply not a debt, period.

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        1. Nick Rowe‏ @MacRoweNick Feb 25
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          Some money is debt and some debt is money. But some money is not debt and some debt is not money. 2 distinct but overlapping categories. I'm fine with that. Another old post:https://worthwhile.typepad.com/worthwhile_canadian_initi/2016/12/financial-assets-liabilities.html …

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