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    1. Samson Mow‏Verified account @Excellion Feb 23
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      Samson Mow Retweeted Lawrence H. White

      Ofc 1 BTC = 1 BTC alone doesn’t make for sound money. The point economists miss is that #Bitcoin is like a ruler. Finite supply allows us to measure other things. Fiat supply keeps growing, so measuring in $’s is meaningless. Can’t measure things with a ruler that keeps changing.https://twitter.com/lawrencehwhite1/status/1099427956131287040 …

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      Lawrence H. White @lawrencehwhite1
      Replying to @pierre_rochard
      BTC1 = BTC1. You don’t seriously think that this is a good argument for considering Bitcoin a sound money, do you?
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    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 24
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      Replying to @Excellion

      This doesn't account for variation in demand, which is what produces Bitcoin's volatility. It will very likely decline, eventually even below the volatility of fiat, but it will never be zero. There is no such thing as a ruler in economics, and can't be.

      15 replies 17 retweets 145 likes
    3. Trading Everything‏ @TradingEveryth1 Feb 24
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      FRBNY has gold vaults beneath it. All dollar-based derivative assets can be forensically traced to the gold as an anchor of value. But removing the gold would have no effect on the derivatives. If bitcoin evolves to sound money, it’ll eventually just be the gold in the basement.

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    4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 24
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      Replying to @TradingEveryth1 @Excellion

      No.

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    5. Trading Everything‏ @TradingEveryth1 Feb 24
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      Derivates can’t be built near-infinitely upon bitcoin and eventually detached from the underlying btc market value?

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    6. Radagast the Brown‏ @RadagastTBrown Feb 24
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      Replying to @TradingEveryth1 @NickSzabo4 @Excellion

      We keep gold in the basement because it's a pain to lug around or send over the internet. Bitcoin is easy to carry and send, so why bother with bitcoin IOUs?

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 24
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      Replying to @RadagastTBrown @TradingEveryth1 @Excellion

      Also, precious metals were expensive to validate without trusting a mint to reliably coin it, a trust that was often abused, as was the trust in IOUs & other derivatives. Validation of Bitcoin is very inexpensive, and universal when receiving money on the Bitcoin main chain.

      2:25 PM - 24 Feb 2019
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        2. Trading Everything‏ @TradingEveryth1 Feb 24
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @RadagastTBrown @Excellion

          I’m not comparing btc to gold beyond noting the USD is/was a derivative of gold. Derivatives aren’t created for efficiency, trust, ease of transfer, or any practical reasons at all. They’re created out of profit incentive. Any sound money/hard asset will generate derivatives.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 24
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          Replying to @TradingEveryth1 @RadagastTBrown @Excellion

          Surely if somebody is making a profit off them, and it's a free market, somebody on the other side of the deal is getting value they are willing to pay for. What is this value>?

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        4. Trading Everything‏ @TradingEveryth1 Feb 24
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          Always the right question... usually time-value/credit/debt. US didn’t break the gold peg because they were tired of schlepping gold around. It was a coercive credit line extension. At the free market level, at this moment I can buy btc futures at CME easier than elsewhere. My $

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        5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 24
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          Replying to @TradingEveryth1 @RadagastTBrown @Excellion

          Coercive and infinite in time. :-)

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