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    1. Carnivore Aurelius ©‏ @KetoAurelius Feb 9
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      More carbs = higher death rate A study of 130,000 people over 7 years showed that increasing carbohydrate intake from 40% of energy to 70%, ~DOUBLED mortality rate Fat is not killing people. Carbs arepic.twitter.com/ZYG8EIf4Ew

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    2. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang Feb 9
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      Replying to @KetoAurelius @NickSzabo4

      Controlled for total calories?

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    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 9
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      Why? Causing you to eat more calories may be the main way that carbs kill you.

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    4. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang Feb 9
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @KetoAurelius

      Certainly could be true but that’s a separate hypothesis

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    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 9
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      Replying to @Ruminorang @KetoAurelius

      "More carbs = higher death rate". You're asking him to exclude what may be the main causal mechanism that makes that claim true.

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    6. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang Feb 9
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      I don’t know if we’re on the same page. There are separate studies about diet adherence, and they don’t necessarily find strong evidence that low carb diets have better adherence. There’s wide variability. What they do tend to show is whatever produces weight loss, yields benefit

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    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 9
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      Replying to @Ruminorang @KetoAurelius

      You're insisting that nutrition studies be up to the rigors of physics, that if we don't isolate 1 cause to 1 effect ignore it. The biology is far too complex for that. If that's your standard there's no such thing as nutrition science & you should just eat what your grandpa ate.

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    8. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 9
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      BTW, scientific controls, while quite valuable for the science itself, are often abused in the reporting of science, here's a common way it is done: Study to show whether X causes Z via cause A, controlling for B,C,etc. Negative. Media reports as "study shows X doesn't cause Z."

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    9. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang Feb 9
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      I may have misused the term variable. What I was trying to say is, in order to understand the mechanism, we’d need to be able to tease out whether carbs -> overeating -> 💀, or carbs-> X -> 💀

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    10. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang Feb 9
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      For myself, I’d much rather keep eating carbs. I can control my intake by counting calories. It’s unclear to me how this study informs what *I* should do differently. Maybe it supports a *general* advice to the average person to eat low carb

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 9
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      Replying to @Ruminorang @KetoAurelius

      People outside of hospitals with highly controlled menus generally do not and cannot accurately count their calories. I am calling bullshit.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 9
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          That's another problem with counting calories, as the same food can result in different calories absorbed for different people. For example gut bacteria get to some of it first.

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        2. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang Feb 9
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @KetoAurelius

          Calling bullshit on the idea that I can reliably control my weight that way or that the average person can? Because I agree that low carb diets are extremely useful in that they’re self-regulating due to eating high satiety foods

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 9
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          Unless you show me the very expensive and highly unusual lab equipment you use, and the extremely oppressive behavioral controls that are needed to avoid eating outside those constraints, I am calling bullshit on your claim that you are accurately counting your calories.

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        4. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang Feb 9
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          Its a crude tool, of course, but it is close enough that I can reliably control my weight. I have in the past intentionally done a high-calorie low-carb diet, and even very low carb diet, and you simply can’t outrun calorie intake. Weight goes up with those too

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        5. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang Feb 9
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          But what I’m saying is you can use calorie counting as a tool even if the reliability of the measurement is not so precise

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        6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 9
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          I'm glad your practice of trying to count your calories helps you control your intake, but it's not a study and AFAIK such effort is highly unlikely to be useful for the vast majority of people who have already tried that and in the long run failed to lose weight.

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