Controlled for total calories?
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Replying to @Ruminorang @KetoAurelius
Why? Causing you to eat more calories may be the main way that carbs kill you.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @KetoAurelius
Certainly could be true but that’s a separate hypothesis
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Replying to @Ruminorang @KetoAurelius
"More carbs = higher death rate". You're asking him to exclude what may be the main causal mechanism that makes that claim true.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @KetoAurelius
I don’t know if we’re on the same page. There are separate studies about diet adherence, and they don’t necessarily find strong evidence that low carb diets have better adherence. There’s wide variability. What they do tend to show is whatever produces weight loss, yields benefit
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Replying to @Ruminorang @KetoAurelius
You're insisting that nutrition studies be up to the rigors of physics, that if we don't isolate 1 cause to 1 effect ignore it. The biology is far too complex for that. If that's your standard there's no such thing as nutrition science & you should just eat what your grandpa ate.
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BTW, scientific controls, while quite valuable for the science itself, are often abused in the reporting of science, here's a common way it is done: Study to show whether X causes Z via cause A, controlling for B,C,etc. Negative. Media reports as "study shows X doesn't cause Z."
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @KetoAurelius
I may have misused the term variable. What I was trying to say is, in order to understand the mechanism, we’d need to be able to tease out whether carbs -> overeating ->
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carbs-> X ->
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Replying to @Ruminorang @KetoAurelius
We have big enough challenges trying to link controllable causes (food in the mouth) with final effects (bad health outcomes), without confusing the reporting of results by trying to eliminate or prove all possible intermediate mechanisms. Vastly more complex than physics.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @Ruminorang
Nutrition "science" *shouldnt* necessarily control everything.
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And statistical nutritional studies trying to go from diet to health outcomes generally *can't* control for everything, the subject is way too complex.
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