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    1. Stephen Pimentel‏ @StephenPiment Feb 8
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      Drexler–Smalley debate on molecular nanotechnology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drexler%E2%80%93Smalley_debate_on_molecular_nanotechnology …

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    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 8
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      Looks like Smalley has been proven right but the subsequent failures to develop this technology.

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    3. Stephen Pimentel‏ @StephenPiment Feb 8
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      It's true that of the potentially transformative technologies of the late 20th century, nanotech has been one of the slowest to materialize. But then, one could say the same of nuclear fusion, for which I still hold out high hopes.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 8
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      None of the diamondoid machines, or even their parts, in *Nanosystems* have been implemented, despite decades of effort. Fusion reactors have actually been built and work it's just not economical.

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        1. Stephen Pimentel‏ @StephenPiment Feb 8
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          Yes, that's an important distinction; it's the chief reason for my continued hope for the progress of the latter.

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        2. Arthur B.‏ @ArthurB Feb 8
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          Had the debate been about the realistic prospects of mechanosynthesis in the next decades, then perhaps. But Smalley makes a much stronger claim by asserting infeasibility, the jury is still out on that one.

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        3. Arthur B.‏ @ArthurB Feb 8
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          In machine learning - which is much easier and cheaper to iterate on - it took 30 years to really get back propagation, and another 20 to figure out deep nets failed because of poorly initialized weights.

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        4. Perry E. Metzger‏ @perrymetzger Feb 8
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          I'll make a stronger claim: MNT is completely feasible to work on right now, but there are so few people working on it that there's been essentially no serious _attempt_ at progress for over 20 years. The number of people working on it is vastly too small to get anywhere.

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        5. Perry E. Metzger‏ @perrymetzger Feb 8
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          The complexity of building working MNT is way beyond what a dozen people can accomplish, but, being _generous_, that's how many people are working on the problem.

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        6. Perry E. Metzger‏ @perrymetzger Feb 8
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          BTW: it's exceptionally annoying when people who haven't actually read and worked through the papers in the field, which address issues like quantum uncertainty, thermal noise, etc., opine endlessly about this stuff. Chapter 5 of Nanosystems is entirely devoted to this.

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        7. Perry E. Metzger‏ @perrymetzger Feb 8
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          Yes, there's a whole chapter that very carefully goes through both the thermal positional uncertainty and quantum positional uncertainty of such systems. See pages 90-119 of Nanosystems. I've never seen a specific claim of a mistake in any of the calculations.

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        1. Perry E. Metzger‏ @perrymetzger Feb 8
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          What "effort"? Who has actually done a serious attempt? I can't name such a person. There have been, what, a dozen people at most working on this when we need thousands? And since when does the fact that something hasn't been done to date prove that it can't be done?

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