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    1. Ryan Sean Adams‏ @RyanSAdams Feb 4
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      It has informal governance What type of governance do you have in mind?

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    2. Luis Cuende  🦅‏Verified account @licuende Feb 5
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      I think "informal governance" is something only a dumb network like Bitcoin can tolerate. For networks that need to make improvements and take decisions, "informal governance" equals stagnation.

      1 reply 5 retweets 22 likes
    3. Ryan Sean Adams‏ @RyanSAdams Feb 5
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      Replying to @licuende @lrettig @crypto_dev_alex

      What type of governance do you think ethereum should have?

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    4. Luis Cuende  🦅‏Verified account @licuende Feb 5
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      Replying to @RyanSAdams @lrettig @crypto_dev_alex

      Spec'ing out governance models requires a lot of research and experimentation, but a quick idea would be: - Non-binding signaling for forks and EIPs by core devs/a committee, elected by ETH holders - Binding votes to execute forks, by a supermajority of ETH holders

      3 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    5. Ryan Sean Adams‏ @RyanSAdams Feb 5
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      Replying to @licuende @lrettig @crypto_dev_alex

      Why is an approach like this better than Ethereum’s current governance?

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    6. Luis Cuende  🦅‏Verified account @licuende Feb 5
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      Replying to @RyanSAdams @lrettig @crypto_dev_alex

      Because there's no governance. "Someone" in a dev call "sort of decides" what to do and when to fork. I have no idea how the process works and what the rationale is, because there isn't

      2 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    7. Anthony Sassano‏ @sassal0x Feb 5
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      It's not that simple.. Ethereums governance process is "messy" but it's not just "someone sort of deciding what to do".https://twitter.com/sassal0x/status/1086023932514189312?s=21 …

      Anthony Sassano added,

      Anthony Sassano @sassal0x
      0/ There has been a lot of misinformation spread surrounding Ethereum's upcoming issuance reduction - codenamed the #Thirdening In this thread, I’ll explain the process that Ethereum issuance reductions go through before they can be considered “consensus”. (thread)
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    8. Luis Cuende  🦅‏Verified account @licuende Feb 5
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      Replying to @sassal0x @RyanSAdams and

      I just think that messy governance is great for dumb protocols that don't need to change. Like Bitcoin, messy and dysfunctional governance is great for a store of value. But for a protocol like Ethereum that needs to adapt very fast, I just don't see it

      5 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
    9. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 6
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      Replying to @licuende @sassal0x and

      You don't have any choice. There is no such thing as unmessy governance.

      1 reply 2 retweets 11 likes
    10. Luis Cuende  🦅‏Verified account @licuende Feb 6
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @sassal0x and

      Unmessy governance would be formal, on-chain governance. Governance is subjective and therefore messy by definition, but on-chain governance makes it less messy

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 6
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      Replying to @licuende @sassal0x and

      The more of you think that, the messier it will get.

      1:02 PM - 6 Feb 2019
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        1. Federico Ast‏ @federicoast Feb 6
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          As General Perón said: "Politics is done in the mud"

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        2. Luis Cuende  🦅‏Verified account @licuende Feb 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @sassal0x and

          Only time will tell

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