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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Mihailo Bjelic‏ @MihailoBjelic Feb 6
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      Replying to @licuende @IslandHunting and

      My 2 cents: 1. I's stay away from on-chain governance; I think Eth "team" just needs to be better structured (important: decentralization != no structure) 2. Ethereum --> scalable & secure tech should be the priority now, Ether --> SoV will naturally come into focus after this.

      2 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    2. Ameen Soleimani  👹‏ @ameensol Feb 6
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      Replying to @MihailoBjelic @licuende and

      Agree with both, especially #2. It will be hard (IMO) to get to ether -> SoV long-term narrative without upgrading utility to devs in the near-term. I think SoV focus actually might have made more sense when there was less competition, but now ETH has to be more...adaptive.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    3. Mihailo Bjelic‏ @MihailoBjelic Feb 6
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      Replying to @ameensol @licuende and

      Exactly. If there's no "dev utility", there's *zero* chance for Ether to become SoV, no matter how "SoV-optimized" it is. Once we have dev utility, Ether SoV-optimization makes a ton of sense. One can even write a simple math function to explain this.

      2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    4.  🍕 💪 🐍 😎 🐍 🤙 🍕 [Dare to #GrowDePi]‏ @fubuloubu Feb 6
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      Replying to @MihailoBjelic @ameensol and

      Utility drives demand for ETH, making it a store of value.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    5.  🍕 💪 🐍 😎 🐍 🤙 🍕 [Dare to #GrowDePi]‏ @fubuloubu Feb 6
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      Replying to @fubuloubu @MihailoBjelic and

      #DeFi restricts the supply side of ETH, increasing SoV characteristics. Both together symbiotically gives it value.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    6.  🍕 💪 🐍 😎 🐍 🤙 🍕 [Dare to #GrowDePi]‏ @fubuloubu Feb 6
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      Replying to @fubuloubu @MihailoBjelic and

      @RyanSAdams ^ (2 tweets) Investment thesis?

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    7. Ryan Sean Adams‏ @RyanSAdams Feb 6
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      Replying to @fubuloubu @MihailoBjelic and

      Yeah. I mean, thesis is pretty similar to a commodity like gold: First, it's a useful metal for ornamental / industrial use (like Eth Gas/staking) Then, it becomes a SoV when an economy starts to store it value in it (like Eth in CDP/defi) This gets reinforce in adoption waves

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    8.  🍕 💪 🐍 😎 🐍 🤙 🍕 [Dare to #GrowDePi]‏ @fubuloubu Feb 6
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      Replying to @RyanSAdams @MihailoBjelic and

      I also mean to pay for gas. If there are applications on Ethereum that make sense and are valuable, but have nothing to do with finance, they still drive demand for the asset (such as a commodity like gold does), meaning it absolutely has value above and beyond just meme-money

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    9.  🍕 💪 🐍 😎 🐍 🤙 🍕 [Dare to #GrowDePi]‏ @fubuloubu Feb 6
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      Replying to @fubuloubu @RyanSAdams and

      I still like the analogy of "digital oil" Amy sufficiently useful asset has a monetary premium if it's scarce _enough_ Also, oil is such a bigger market than gold, why limit ourselves?https://www.visualcapitalist.com/size-oil-market/ …

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    10. Ryan Sean Adams‏ @RyanSAdams Feb 6
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      Replying to @fubuloubu @MihailoBjelic and

      Note: oil is an example of a commodity money that has held a monetary premium of various sizes over time http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2016/02/two-malthusian-scares.html … Ethereum's Gas is like digital oil. And in a way, Ether is like the US petrodollar because all Gas is currently settled in Ether

      4 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 6
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      Replying to @RyanSAdams @fubuloubu and

      Alas, it's more like a tar pit these days, but thanks for the mention.

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        2. Mihailo Bjelic‏ @MihailoBjelic Feb 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @RyanSAdams and

          Care to share what do you think is "wrong" with Ethereum nowadays? Thanks. 🙏

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 6
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          Replying to @MihailoBjelic @RyanSAdams and

          Poor architectural plans, sloppy programming, &c but symptom most readily seen is many of its louder voices seem to be devolving more and more into nutty utopian "governance" schemes, substitution of abuse for knowledge and research, etc. as if desperate to save a sinking ship.

          6 replies 17 retweets 76 likes
        4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @MihailoBjelic and

          That said, there are many talented & knowledgeable Eth devs who understand that trust minimization includes governance minimization & that Turing-complete smart contracts are a hugely valuable idea but very different from programming a web page. I look forward to a future reboot.

          3 replies 4 retweets 40 likes
        5. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ Feb 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @MihailoBjelic and

          Do you think Simplicity by blockstream is miles ahead and taking a much more reasonable path to full featured smart contracts?

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        6. Donald McIntyre  ☣️ 🗑️‏ @TokenHash Feb 6
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          Replying to @JWWeatherman_ @NickSzabo4 and

          Bitcoin will never have L1 smart contracts, therefore smart contracts on Bitcoin will never be secure. Better use #ETC!

          3 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
        7. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ Feb 6
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          Replying to @TokenHash @NickSzabo4 and

          Unless something has changed about open source projects with the vast majority of the talent and market share and the most solid architecture, I think you are wrong. As soon as we know how to build secure smart contracts they will be on bitcoin as shown by #LN.

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        8. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Feb 6
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          Replying to @JWWeatherman_ @TokenHash and

          Off-chain smart contracts don't have the same trust assumptions as on-chain code. One is often not a good substitute for the other.

          2 replies 4 retweets 20 likes
        9. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ Feb 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @TokenHash and

          Agreed. But Simplicity is intended to be used on Bitcoin. And unless Eth has a credible chance of getting massive hash power they should stop the security theater and use a federated model.

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        2. Ryan Sean Adams‏ @RyanSAdams Feb 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @fubuloubu and

          ;) You think Ethereum has lost its way?

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        3. HuntingIsland - 'ETH is programmable money'‏ @IslandHunting Feb 6
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          Replying to @RyanSAdams @NickSzabo4 and

          ";) You think Ethereum has lost its way?" That can't possibly be news to you :)

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        1.  🍕 💪 🐍 😎 🐍 🤙 🍕 [Dare to #GrowDePi]‏ @fubuloubu Feb 6
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @RyanSAdams and

          The market will decide!

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