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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Joel Dietz‏ @jdietz Jan 27
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      After reading @VladZamfir’s article fully I’m more convinced that we need @NickSzabo4 principles to avoid having populist Blockchain takeovers by absurdist trolls since you never know what they will come up with next.

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    2. Vlad Zamfir‏ @VladZamfir Jan 27
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      your imagination for crypto law is weak

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    3. Vitalik Non-giver of Ether‏Verified account @VitalikButerin Jan 28
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      Replying to @VladZamfir @jdietz @NickSzabo4

      Instead of criticizing our imaginations why not come up with a concrete proposal? Not asking for a fully thought out system, even marginal directional suggestions relative to the status quo.

      8 replies 6 retweets 124 likes
    4. Joel Dietz‏ @jdietz Jan 28
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      Replying to @VitalikButerin @VladZamfir @NickSzabo4

      I suggested a middleware layer between existing legal systems and cryptoprotocols. @NickSzabo4 has suggested similar in the past in unpublished work. Classic enterprise solution and reduces catastrophic failure potential.

      2 replies 4 retweets 26 likes
    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jan 28
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      Replying to @jdietz @VitalikButerin @VladZamfir

      Indeed, an optional middleware layer for people who want their smart contracts to be reversible by third parties. I'm all for it.

      8 replies 13 retweets 72 likes
    6. Bill Smith‏ @billsmith4lyfe Jan 28
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jdietz and

      Yes. We can't possibly predict what savy contracting parties want or need in deal making. Every deal is different. Options are good. Nick is it possible to read more of your thoughts on the middle layer somewhere?

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jan 28
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      Replying to @billsmith4lyfe @jdietz and

      On my part it's only an idea, not a worked-out architecture. I do imagine a "choice of forum" , the addresses of the adjudicators, n-out-of-m of their keys can reverse the smart contract, distinct from "choice of law", instructions for adjudicators on what rules they should use.

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        1. Joel Dietz‏ @jdietz Jan 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @billsmith4lyfe and

          The nice thing is this is likely to be compliant with the @SEC_News @SEC_Enforcement DAO ruling. Remember their problem was the centralized front end curation of @The_DAO_Project that undermined the principle of decentralization.

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        2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jan 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @billsmith4lyfe and

          Also, some parts of the smart contract could be specified as reversible and some not.

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        3. Timo‏ @DLTPandu Jan 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @billsmith4lyfe and

          Do you think it will be possible to provide a truly decentralized oracle network for that middle-layer?

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        4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jan 28
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          Replying to @DLTPandu @timo_harings and

          Thinking about it as a generic vague "oracle" is the wrong way to go. Rather I think the legal metaphors "choice of forum" and "choice of law" are likely to prove very useful in this context.

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        2. Rob‏ @RobLionhart Jan 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @billsmith4lyfe and

          Have you looked at @Kleros_io yet? They're trying to build a decentralized arbitration system for Ethereum-based smart contracts.

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        1. Bill Smith‏ @billsmith4lyfe Jan 28
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          Yep. Possibilities are limitless. Parties can be, and should be, free to choose how their k's work. Some deals, or parts of deals, may desire finality via nonrefundandable deposits. Nuanced deals may need an arb to ensure compliance b4 releasing $. These aren't scary ideas.

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        1. Crypto Law Review‏ @CryptoLawRev Jan 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @billsmith4lyfe and

          Just want to point out the obvious point, but everyone should agree that this important conversation wouldn’t be happening now if it wasn’t for the brilliant catalyst penned by @VladZamfir. Kudos.

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        1. Mark S ⚡️ 💎‏ @mark_skrypt Jan 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @billsmith4lyfe and

          What about the privacy of that smart contract? I think they have to be optionally private, to avoid the exposure of details in public

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        1. Pedro Ogbonna‏ @africanroyalorg Jan 28
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @billsmith4lyfe and

          Did you see the team of Menapay. io ? Awesome !! #MenaPay #menapayio @ilkercikrikcili @menapayio @menapay @TolgaOdoglu @bozistek @yusufbc @Burakbalikk @VitalikButerin @rogerkver @brockpierce

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