This doesn't explain why so many cryptographers HODLed Bitcoin and so few Austrians did
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Replying to @_JustinMoon_ @Ruminorang
Most Austrian economists, like economists generally, operate at a layer of society's "protocol stack" that assumes security is already solved. But it was security/trust minimization that had to be solved to provide sound money not dependent on government for its security.
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Replying to @TokenHash @NickSzabo4 and
I can explain this: Rothbard, speaking in rather broad theoretical terms, said that money arises from goods that have commodity trading value. It was thought by many Austrians looking at Bitcoin early on that with no commodity price, it could have no monetary value.
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Replying to @bitcoinpasada @TokenHash and
I remember the debate very well since I sided with Rothbard on this point and didn't buy any Bitcoin in 2010.
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Replying to @bitcoinpasada @TokenHash and
To put it simply, that interpretation requires a "base trading price" for the commodity upon which a money price can be based. It was believed that without this "base price" Bitcoin would be impossible to price. Now we understand that yes it's hard to price but it is not zero.
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Replying to @bitcoinpasada @TokenHash and
Yes this was always a fallacious argument that comes from taking economic theories too dogmatically. It's like arguing that an insurance contract can't be useful as an insurance contract until it's useful for something more concrete, say generating power or growing food.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and
It also helped me, when designing bit gold, that I studied the actual archeology and ethnography of the origins of money, and knew that money or something very much like it rose millenia before the dawn of spot commodity markets and widely respected property rights.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and
The Austrian agreement was simply that something can’t be used as money before it has a market value. I’m sure if Rothbard was alive he wouldn’t have struggled with something could develop a market value due to its surprisingly useful properties (as money).
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People can have foresight and foresee that some things make much better money than others. Especially true today when money has long been a specialized product. Much harder to foresee during the origins of money (OTOH there were no actual spot market prices back then either).
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @JWWeatherman_ and
Very interesting discussion guys. Thanks for sharing
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