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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Justin Moon‏ @_JustinMoon_ 23 Dec 2018
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      This doesn't explain why so many cryptographers HODLed Bitcoin and so few Austrians did

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    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @_JustinMoon_ @Ruminorang

      Most Austrian economists, like economists generally, operate at a layer of society's "protocol stack" that assumes security is already solved. But it was security/trust minimization that had to be solved to provide sound money not dependent on government for its security.

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    3. bitcoinpasada ⚡‏ @bitcoinpasada 24 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @TokenHash @NickSzabo4 and

      I can explain this: Rothbard, speaking in rather broad theoretical terms, said that money arises from goods that have commodity trading value. It was thought by many Austrians looking at Bitcoin early on that with no commodity price, it could have no monetary value.

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    4. bitcoinpasada ⚡‏ @bitcoinpasada 24 Dec 2018
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      I remember the debate very well since I sided with Rothbard on this point and didn't buy any Bitcoin in 2010.

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    5. bitcoinpasada ⚡‏ @bitcoinpasada 24 Dec 2018
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      To put it simply, that interpretation requires a "base trading price" for the commodity upon which a money price can be based. It was believed that without this "base price" Bitcoin would be impossible to price. Now we understand that yes it's hard to price but it is not zero.

      2 replies 3 retweets 22 likes
    6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @bitcoinpasada @TokenHash and

      Yes this was always a fallacious argument that comes from taking economic theories too dogmatically. It's like arguing that an insurance contract can't be useful as an insurance contract until it's useful for something more concrete, say generating power or growing food.

      3 replies 3 retweets 61 likes
    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and

      It also helped me, when designing bit gold, that I studied the actual archeology and ethnography of the origins of money, and knew that money or something very much like it rose millenia before the dawn of spot commodity markets and widely respected property rights.

      8 replies 27 retweets 184 likes
    8. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina 24 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and

      Nick how would you apportion value in #bitcoin between (security/not confiscateable) vs fixed supply?

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @BitcoinTina @bitcoinpasada and

      I think a wide variety of supply algos would have worked, as long as they are predictable. Bitcoin's works well because it is simple enough for a large number of users to understand. Security/trust min is responsible for more of the value, as I assess it.

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        2. Hugo Nguyen‏ @hugohanoi 25 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and

          Indeed, Bitcoin at the core relies on people's 'bounded rationality' to sustain itself. So the simpler the incentive scheme, the more people will buy into it and contribute to its continued security. I wrote about this recentlyhttps://medium.com/@hugonguyen/bitcoins-incentive-scheme-and-the-rational-individual-dc20effa4715 …

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        3. Hugo Nguyen‏ @hugohanoi 25 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @hugohanoi @NickSzabo4 and

          @NickSzabo4 how do you think Bitcoin's transition to a fee-driven model will impact security? given that fees are a lot less predictable than a fixed supply/fixed inflation schedule?

          1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
        4. Dypto Du Rrency‏ @DyptoDurrency 25 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @hugohanoi @NickSzabo4 and

          And how you think that transition will impact the set of unusable UTXOs or 'dust' created by rising tx fees?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Ben Westgate‏ @BenWestgate_ 26 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @DyptoDurrency @hugohanoi and

          After schnorr signatures the dust can be spent with larger UTXOs in the wallet without spending more fee than the dust is worth. But unspendable outputs are great for raising the value of everyone else’s coins a little.

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        1. Emilio Santos‏ @emisanle 26 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and

          Speaking of money supply, what reason do you guys think could push Nakamoto to choose the "discrete" halving every 4 years instead of a "continuous" slowdown in the money supply (which would have helped to reduce price volatility faster)?

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        2. max hillebrand [ ⚡️₿ lex rex ₿ 🔑]‏ @HillebrandMax 26 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and

          Money is a tool to remove the uneasiness of an uncertain future. If one thing is certain, it's that my node will never allow more than 21 million #bitcoin.

          1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
        3. Crypto Rancher‏ @crypto_rancher 26 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @HillebrandMax @NickSzabo4 and

          Much less than that actually. We’ll be dead long before 21 million.

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        4. max hillebrand [ ⚡️₿ lex rex ₿ 🔑]‏ @HillebrandMax 26 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @crypto_rancher @NickSzabo4 and

          Don't underestimate the ingenuity and creativity of entrepreneurs hodling sound money.

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        1. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina 24 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and

          @JWWeatherman_ describes it as changing the human power dynamic. I agree. Yet few understand it. One example I use is from 80's. BMW's suffered frequent break-ins to steal Blaupunkt radios. When 1 to 1 correspondence was adopted the break-ins stopped almost immediately.

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        1. tipton cole‏ @tipton 26 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and

          The most significant qualifier in this statement is "min". BTC most often described as "trustless", but Szabo correctly characterizes the feature as "trust minimization". Full nodes ultimately form a trust pool based on agreement. No one stands alone.

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        1. Ruben ₿ Johansen ⚡️ 🔑‏ @ruben_johansen 24 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @_JustinMoon_ and

          The most fundamental part of itcoin value. The important metrics are universal super simple. There is nothing special about anything. Easy is safe. Safe is gold. Gold is #bitcoin.

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        1. Bartel C.E. Schreurs [ 🔑]‏ @ceschreurs 25 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bitcoinpasada and

          Security and trust is the answer.

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