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    1. Lyric Hughes Hale‏ @lyrichues 17 Dec 2018
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      Lyric Hughes Hale Retweeted Tone Vays [Bali - Financial Summit]

      Bitcoin suicide: ask investors to create an artificial run on crypto exchanges-an uncontrolled stress test in a new & fragile market. Exchanges create needed on-ramps for non-techs & reg certainty. @ToneVays @LeahWald @coinbase @krakenfx @saifedean @NickSzabo4 @CaitlinLong_https://twitter.com/ToneVays/status/1074695740826497024 …

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      Tone Vays [Bali - Financial Summit] @ToneVays
      #Bitcoin Morning Brief is BACK w/ @LeahWald & @nvk to cover latest article from @lopp on who controls Core (we all know it's @Blockstream 😂) latest on #Lightning and "Protect Your Keys" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQyzHtTrofs …
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    2. Tone Vays [Bali - Financial Summit]‏ @ToneVays 17 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @lyrichues @LeahWald and

      If you're right, I would love to pick up a shit ton of #Bitcoin in the Bloodbath of incompetence

      6 replies 1 retweet 39 likes
    3. Lyric Hughes Hale‏ @lyrichues 17 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @ToneVays @LeahWald and

      You have an iron stomach for trading and a long term view. But this will spook institutional and retail investors, big time. Community should rethink this stunt.

      4 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Tone Vays [Bali - Financial Summit]‏ @ToneVays 17 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @lyrichues @LeahWald and

      I hope so, my biggest fear is everyone getting comfortable with a giant amount if #Bitcoin held in regulated entities at risk of US Govn't confiscation with a phone call like with #Gold in 1933.

      3 replies 1 retweet 36 likes
    5. Lyric Hughes Hale‏ @lyrichues 17 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @ToneVays @LeahWald and

      I totally understand that but is that the biggest threat to crypto assets right now? I think it is probably adoption and education.

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. HODLer of Last Resort‏ @jimyoung2817 17 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @lyrichues @ToneVays and

      Adoption and education are inevitable. Anti-fragility is not, it must evolve in a hostile env. Also, I think this stunt is more likely to bring needed awareness to the need to control ones own keys than to damage major exchanges. Unless I'm wrong, then see my first point.

      1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
    7. Lyric Hughes Hale‏ @lyrichues 17 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @jimyoung2817 @ToneVays and

      Nothing is inevitable with crypto. This will just confuse people who don't think they're technically capable or physically secure holding their own keys. Exchanges are a bridge for them. Blow them up, or threaten to, and they will go away. Default behavior matters.

      5 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 17 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @lyrichues @jimyoung2817 and

      Indeed t does matter. A default that trusts a third party deprives users of most of the main benefits of a cryptocurrency & gives risky influence to centralizers who do not or care not to appreciate these benefits, but want a PayPal controlled by themselves instead of by PayPal.

      3:33 PM - 17 Dec 2018
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        2. Lyric Hughes Hale‏ @lyrichues 17 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jimyoung2817 and

          I understand the distrust of a third party post Mt Gox. But if wider adoption is also a goal, exchanges are a useful bridge until we live in the world we want, not the one we inhabit now. Create alternatives for non-techies before you burn down the on-ramps they know how to use.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 17 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @lyrichues @jimyoung2817 and

          If you don't need trust minimization, then you very likely have no need for using a cryptocurrency. SWIFT and PayPal will work just fine. Pushing crypto on people who don't need it is like selling an airplane to somebody who just wants to commute 10 miles to work.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. Lyric Hughes Hale‏ @lyrichues 17 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jimyoung2817 and

          I think that the democratization of crypto is what will give it longevity. At the beginning of flight, only rich people took airplanes. As more people experienced it they realized its utility. Same for crypto assets, Adoption is a process. Let a 1000 flowers bloom.

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        2. Lyric Hughes Hale‏ @lyrichues 17 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @jimyoung2817 and

          Imagine that the exchanges are like banks. If you suddenly had depositors withdraw all of their money they wouldn't be able to deliver. That doesn't mean they are or are not sound. What is being proposed is essentially a bank run. It will be seen as reckless & self-destructive.

          5 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        3. Grinners The-Wizard‏ @Grinnersaok 18 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @lyrichues @NickSzabo4 and

          If any of the exchanges are deceptively holding less than full reserves of Bitcoin then they will fail, and good riddance. You seem to be suggesting those fraudulent actors should be protected from being exposed?

          1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
        4. ShrimpFi‏ @ShrimpFi 18 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @Grinnersaok @CaitlinLong_ and

          How do we know the exchanges are not holding full reserves of bitcoin?

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        5. Caitlin Long  🔑‏ @CaitlinLong_ 18 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @ShrimpFi @Grinnersaok and

          We have no idea if #crypto exchanges are fully reserved—zero transparency. They deserve to fail if they’re not. MtGox certainly wasn’t—that’s when I learned #notyourkeysnotyourbitcoin (that was “cheap tuition” for an impt lesson). Let’s help others avoid learning that same lesson

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        6. Lyric Hughes Hale‏ @lyrichues 18 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @CaitlinLong_ @Grinnersaok and

          Aren’t exchanges answerable to central authorities as Mt Gox was? In the US, who regulates them? In other words is there already a remedy at law or existing regulation that protects consumers?

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        7. HODLer of Last Resort‏ @jimyoung2817 18 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @lyrichues @CaitlinLong_ and

          I don't know the answer, but your question misses the fundamental point of Bitcoin.

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        8. Lyric Hughes Hale‏ @lyrichues 18 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @jimyoung2817 @CaitlinLong_ and

          I understand bitcoin but the action being contemplated is aimed at determining the status and viability of centralized exchanges-hence my question-is someone else is already doing that?

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        9. HODLer of Last Resort‏ @jimyoung2817 18 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @lyrichues @CaitlinLong_ and

          It's aimed at reminding users that if they don't own the keys they don't own the Bitcoin, and at reminding exchanges that their custodial privilege can be revoked at any time. If exchanges get hurt in the process, so be it, but it's not about determining the viability.

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        2. Caitlin Long  🔑‏ @CaitlinLong_ 17 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @lyrichues and

          Well said @NickSzabo4! #notyourkeysnotyourbitcoin

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