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    1. Martin Köppelmann‏ @koeppelmann 1 Dec 2018
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      Martin Köppelmann Retweeted Nick Szabo  🔑

      Yes! Eventually #ethereum must stabilize to minimal changes and maximal reliability. But this time is not now.https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/1068959933897437184 …

      Martin Köppelmann added,

      Nick Szabo  🔑 @NickSzabo4
      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @lrettig
      If you want Ethereum to be a true world computer it must scale socially, i.e. behave in a manner trustworthy to as many diverse users in diverse parts of globe as possible, not merely geographically (just a few dozen English-speaking mutual acquaintances in a handful of cities).
      2 replies 10 retweets 43 likes
    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 1 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @koeppelmann

      If not very soon, probably never, because governance that exhibits a larger-than-scalable argument surface for many years develops and perpetuates governance habits inappropriate to large scales and next to impossible to undo.

      3 replies 6 retweets 44 likes
    3. Martin Köppelmann‏ @koeppelmann 1 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4

      That is definitely a risk. But Ethereum „as is“ would not survive.

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Ameen Soleimani  👹‏ @ameensol 1 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @koeppelmann @NickSzabo4

      Right - the choices for ETH are "definitely die" (by not doing anything) or "maybe survive" (by discussing and implementing upgrades). Everyone in ETH should understand this "do or die" situation. Thankfully the main ETH community is rational / pragmatic devs, so it might work.

      1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
    5. Ameen Soleimani  👹‏ @ameensol 1 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @ameensol @koeppelmann @NickSzabo4

      It also benefits from having non-anonymous leaders to guide the discussion in a scalable way...

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 1 Dec 2018
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      Nope, naming doesn't prevent disagreement. Probably doesn't even appreciably reduce it, although it can create an illusion of reducing it. And it enables attack vectors from outside against the chain's functionality that don't exist with anonymous developers.

      12:49 PM - 1 Dec 2018
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        2. Ameen Soleimani  👹‏ @ameensol 1 Dec 2018
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          Centralized bootstrapping... Risky? Yes. Are we doing it anyways? Yes. Has leadership helped *resolve* (not prevent/reduce) disagreement thus far? Yes. Are most of the people upset that it has worked thus far betting on ETH to fail anyways? Yes. Okay then we'll just carry on.

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        3. som1s  🔑Ƀ‏ @shoreplant 1 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @ameensol @NickSzabo4 @koeppelmann

          I doubt eth devs displayed much courage in their decisions to date to call it risky.

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        4. Ameen Soleimani  👹‏ @ameensol 1 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @shoreplant @NickSzabo4 @koeppelmann

          Incorrect.

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        5. som1s  🔑Ƀ‏ @shoreplant 1 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @ameensol @NickSzabo4 @koeppelmann

          Or wisdom and integrity like you've just been offered. Do carry on.

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        2. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 1 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @ameensol @koeppelmann

          It's important to name mechanics. Many disagreements can be resolved by correctly naming the thing disagreed about. Epistemologists have agreed for millennia that including the person making the disagreement is fallacious.

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        3. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 1 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @Alrenous @NickSzabo4 and

          I believe this was one of Wittgenstein's themes?

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        1. Alexander Pack‏ @alpackaP 1 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @ameensol @koeppelmann

          Democracy had Solon Judaism had Moses The USA had George Washington Charismatic leaders have built scalable trust-minimized systems, although they probably must leave eventually.

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