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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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    "Traditional" finance has destroyed its traditions in favor of naive experiments in digital centralization. Payment vendors now ask questions ludicrously irrelevant to the function of sending payments. Every year their "money" degrades more into tools of political control.https://twitter.com/whiterosetees/status/1061434491292581888 …

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    Tshirts4Peace@WhiteRoseTees @whiterosetees
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    Tried to commission artist in Spain thru PayPal. I had to make a phone call explaining who, what, why, how much, and how many payments there would be in the future. Cancelled. Bitcoin is the future.
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      2. Nigel Pope‏ @nspec2a 11 Nov 2018
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        It is state control via the banking system

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Nov 2018
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        And politically acitivist NGOs, which are even more energetic in trying to destroy their political enemies' money.

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      2. Ketharaman Swaminathan‏ @s_ketharaman 11 Nov 2018
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        As a Merchant, I get irritated by these questions. But PSPs make money only if I go ahead with the payment. If they still risk irritating me, I tend to believe they must be having a good reason to do so by asking these questions.

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Nov 2018
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        Their "good reason" is that they increasingly value their political control, and fear the political control of their masters, far more than they know or care about you their customer. The habits of free enterprise are being left behind.

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      4. Ketharaman Swaminathan‏ @s_ketharaman 11 Nov 2018
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        Agreed. I never had any illusions that PSPs cared about my welfare. But, as things stand, they seem to be a necessary evil. I'll switch in a minute if I had a better alternative.

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      2. Irv‏ @BigIrvCrypto 10 Nov 2018
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        A bit off topic... in Canada our government is pushing “Stats Can” to gain access to personal banking habits. Stats Can is far from Canadian Revenue Agency. They cite it’s needed to gather data to see what social programs are relevant or under funded. Statism is rampant here.

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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        Replying to @BigIrvCrypto

        Sadly on topic. More use of money as a tool of political control instead of focusing on improving money as money.

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      4. Irv‏ @BigIrvCrypto 10 Nov 2018
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        The last time I was in the US I was amazed how many businesses accepted cash. In Canada business look at me confused if I try and use cash. The banks here make us funnel all deposits/withdrawal through them, with a card... fuck.

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      2. absurdist midnight  🌙 git committer child‏ @marcoonroad 11 Nov 2018
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        There's some decentralization on the PSP market. Although not much. These players are hungry, competition is in higher levels, and there's also the rise of White-label Payments Platforms. Lowering the MDR & innovating on architecture is not enough. KYC is being outsourced too.

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Nov 2018
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        And yet customer service is getting worse, increasingly burdening customers with ever more ridiculous questions and freezing and even taking the funds of increasing numbers without due process. More political control is translating to less control and utility for customers.

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      4. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous 11 Nov 2018
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        In shocking turn of events, government 'help' makes the problem worse.

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      2. painteronerabbit‏ @painter1rabbit 10 Nov 2018
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        This book embraces the why. The ideology behind finance mixed with Theology. Your posts are intriguing and your ideology is refreshing. So many intellects are so far left behind.pic.twitter.com/7v8dxepFTZ

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      3. painteronerabbit‏ @painter1rabbit 10 Nov 2018
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        “The scientization of politics leads not only to doctrines of legitimation through natural law, but also to a political epistemology that premises the state as object of cognition, with its own laws and ways of functioning”- Vogl. Thank you for making me think.

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      1. Bilderberg_banker‏ @BilderbergB 10 Nov 2018
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        Laundering is not a crime if you have a banking license. It's part of the job. Capitalism required the shadow economy to be more succesfull at capitalism(backroom deals, immoral ways for profit). And by defintion that shadow needs infrastructure. Don't forget: "Greed is good".

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      1. AHK‏ @Alex_Hff_K 12 Nov 2018
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        Nick what are your thoughts on decentralized exchanges like @The_Blocknet @KomodoPlatform and @bitshares ? They could be hard for regulators to target with KYC and AML

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      2. Michael Rossi‏ @onemichaelrossi 11 Nov 2018
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        Money has always been primarily a tool of political control.

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Nov 2018
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        No.

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      4. Michael Rossi‏ @onemichaelrossi 11 Nov 2018
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        Any medium of exchange, in quantity, is a tool of political control.

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