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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 10 Nov 2018
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      I refuse to believe that Carstens from the BIS is the most sophisticated critic of Bitcoin. There has to be a really intelligent pro-fiat central bank economist out there who is writing a piece with steel-manned arguments against Bitcoin's continued future growth.

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    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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      All they have are their self-serving dogmas & their macroeconomic speculations, & their liturgy combining these (e.g. their obsession with one economic historical event out of thousands, ignoring all its non-monetary causes e.g. tax raises & unpayable debts of defeated empires).

      4 replies 17 retweets 137 likes
    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard

      Incidentally, the tax collections of defeatable polities is the much-vaunted bullet-enforced "floor" Krugman et. al. love to put undernearth fiat currencies. That floor sits on structures quite vulnerable to political earthquakes.

      2 replies 8 retweets 75 likes
    4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Nick Szabo  🔑

      Some examples of political earthquakes that destroyed government financial "floors", including some in major world powers: https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/959000858485665792 … https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/979478875313922048 …https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/979454582605594624 …

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      Nick Szabo  🔑 @NickSzabo4
      For government bonds to be "risk-free", an investor would have to be a perfect fiscal prophet, for example an unerring predictor of who is going to win the next war. These bonds, among those of many other governments large and small, lost essentially all their value. pic.twitter.com/KoLSbs5Awd
      2 replies 30 retweets 73 likes
    5. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 10 Nov 2018
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      That’s where I think pro-fiat advocates need to tighten their arguments: they could say “we’re getting better at creating political systems, institutional frameworks where central banks can be independent from political pressure”. A Stephen Pinker like optimism vs BTC’s pessimism

      1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
    6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @pierre_rochard @Ragnarly

      They share this in common with the "governance innovation" utopians that plague the crypto space.

      5 replies 4 retweets 52 likes
    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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      Another interesting aspect is that they laud the supposed "independence" of central banks from governments one sentence, and then laud the supposedly unshakable "floor under fiat" of tax collection in the next.

      2 replies 11 retweets 58 likes
      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard @Ragnarly

      What is needed is actually secure independence of money from politics, which the Bitcoin protocol does much better than any other prior monetary system.

      4:10 PM - 10 Nov 2018
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        2. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 10 Nov 2018
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          It’s astounding that there are no serious proposals or calls to increase the independence of the Fed in response to Bitcoin’s rise. Like not having the president appoint the chairperson

          10 replies 2 retweets 40 likes
        3. max hillebrand [ ⚡️₿ lex rex ₿ 🔑]‏ @HillebrandMax 11 Nov 2018
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          Bitcoin is not a political campaign, begging beurocrats to change. Bitcoin is #agorism, manifesting change and building a better society without anyone's permission.

          2 replies 2 retweets 20 likes
        4. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 11 Nov 2018
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          I didn’t mean to imply that Bitcoin is a political campaign. I’m just surprised that the pro central bank critics of Bitcoin aren’t steelmanning themselves. They’re intelligent people yet they get hung up on irrelevant details like energy consumption or transactions per second.

          3 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
        5. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 11 Nov 2018
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          And did any of the pro-fiat extremists bring up Bitcoin’s CVE inflation bug? I didn’t see them dramatizing it, huge missed opportunity. I guess they’re just not as competent as I expected.

          7 replies 2 retweets 33 likes
        6. max hillebrand [ ⚡️₿ lex rex ₿ 🔑]‏ @HillebrandMax 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @pierre_rochard @NickSzabo4 @Ragnarly

          Well, they might have had no clue about what happened. This was a minute bug, with strong incentives against exploitation, and it was pretty much instantly fixed. The question is, is Nouriel reading the @bitcoinoptech newsletter yet?

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        7. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @HillebrandMax @NickSzabo4 and

          For any given argument against Bitcoin, conclusive counter-arguments have never stopped Bitcoin skeptics from making the argument! All these Ivy League galaxy brains and very few good pro-fiat arguments being made

          3 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
        8. Sam‏ @Bitcoin_Sam 11 Nov 2018
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          I appreciate you inviting the opposition and debates. I love that and it is healthy for the community. Education and awareness is so important. I just really like this debate here.https://youtu.be/q8R71WGO3qU 

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        9. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @Bitcoin_Sam @HillebrandMax and

          Schiff did really well in that debate, as Voorhees has become an incoherent charlatan with regards to altcoins and scarcity.

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        1. FlippinBitz‏ @FlippinBitz 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard @Ragnarly

          Digital Scarcity + Independence from Gov't and Banks = Satoshi's Gift to the World

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        2. damm kewl‏ @dammkewl 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @Ragnarly @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard

          Not just creation, the entire policy: - Possible options to sovereignly manage your own finances: multisig, nLockTime, no TX expiry, TX signing seperate from broadcasting - Upgrades only pushed with near full consensus - Not a single entity bound protocol (i.e. USA owning SWIFT)

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        1. Digital Currency Laboratories‏ @DCLcoins 10 Nov 2018
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          bitcoin was born in an era of zero cryptocurrency regulation, which was a great freedom. to keep moving forward with innovation today we have no choice but to be informed and prepared for the political and regulatory structures that are being implemented around the globe

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        1. Tim Coulter‏ @timothyjcoulter 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard @Ragnarly

          What's stopping politicians from accepting Bitcoin?

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        1. Tony_Hig‏ @BTCgroover 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @saifedean and

          This truly would be the magic bullet !!! Politics is all about control of money !!! Only when the power of the private Banking cartel is crushed will we truly see meaningful Political Governance . BTC is already being eaten like a cancer from the predatory regulatory environment.

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        1. thebusthatcouldntslowdown‏ @JimiNapes 11 Nov 2018
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          I'd argue what is needed is the independence of politics from money. This seems to be an issue that censorship resistance promoting btc maxers tend to ignore. Should there be no campaign financing or lobbying regulation?

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        2. ♤ReaI Phil Ivory♤‏ @RealPhilIvory 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard @Ragnarly

          Isn't bitcoins biggest downfall that it's all politics ? As in 51% hashrate "vote" ? At least with gold you can't ever change the rules with more mining pwr/vote.

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        3. Lightning Master Hub  ⚡ [BTC LTC]‏ @LN_Master_Hub 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @RealPhilIvory @PhilIvoryPoker and

          "Changing the rules" for bitcoin is akin to "Agreeing that a different substance is valuable instead of gold"... Very much a possibility.

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        4. ♤ReaI Phil Ivory♤‏ @RealPhilIvory 11 Nov 2018
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          Let's see bitcoin has changed the protocol a ton of times already vs the 1000's of years gold has been money.... I'll take my chances with gold I guess 😂😂

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        5. Lightning Master Hub  ⚡ [BTC LTC]‏ @LN_Master_Hub 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @RealPhilIvory @PhilIvoryPoker and

          Aye, you keep spending gold to buy bread and gas then. ^_^

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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