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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 10 Nov 2018
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      I refuse to believe that Carstens from the BIS is the most sophisticated critic of Bitcoin. There has to be a really intelligent pro-fiat central bank economist out there who is writing a piece with steel-manned arguments against Bitcoin's continued future growth.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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      All they have are their self-serving dogmas & their macroeconomic speculations, & their liturgy combining these (e.g. their obsession with one economic historical event out of thousands, ignoring all its non-monetary causes e.g. tax raises & unpayable debts of defeated empires).

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        2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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          Incidentally, the tax collections of defeatable polities is the much-vaunted bullet-enforced "floor" Krugman et. al. love to put undernearth fiat currencies. That floor sits on structures quite vulnerable to political earthquakes.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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          Some examples of political earthquakes that destroyed government financial "floors", including some in major world powers: https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/959000858485665792 … https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/979478875313922048 …https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/979454582605594624 …

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          For government bonds to be "risk-free", an investor would have to be a perfect fiscal prophet, for example an unerring predictor of who is going to win the next war. These bonds, among those of many other governments large and small, lost essentially all their value. pic.twitter.com/KoLSbs5Awd
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        5. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 10 Nov 2018
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          That’s where I think pro-fiat advocates need to tighten their arguments: they could say “we’re getting better at creating political systems, institutional frameworks where central banks can be independent from political pressure”. A Stephen Pinker like optimism vs BTC’s pessimism

          1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
        6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @pierre_rochard @Ragnarly

          They share this in common with the "governance innovation" utopians that plague the crypto space.

          5 replies 4 retweets 52 likes
        7. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @Ragnarly

          Horseshoe theory of Bitcoin: crypto utopians and crypto skeptics overlap more with each other on the topic of Bitcoin vs alternatives than they’d like to admit

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        2. David Andolfatto‏ @dandolfa 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard

          Maybe just a teeny bit harsh, wouldn't you say? There are several thoughtful pieces on the subject, I think.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @dandolfa @pierre_rochard

          There are also thousands of thoughtful pieces of theology from each of the major world religions that thoroughly contradict each other.

          2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        4. David Andolfatto‏ @dandolfa 11 Nov 2018
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          This is true, but am not sure what point you are trying to make. One can make a thoughtful pro/con analysis of any money and payment system. Unless one is peddling a particular religion, that is. Is that what you're doing?

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        5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @dandolfa @pierre_rochard

          My point is that thoughtfulness is woefully insufficient for being accurate or useful or worth reading. Why should Bitcoin people pay attention to the self-serving and often facially shallow ("Bitcoin is too volatile to ever be used as money") theologies of central bankers?

          1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
        6. David Andolfatto‏ @dandolfa 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard

          First of all, because some of those arguments may be correct, at least, in some contexts. In any case, my point is that you could do better by critiquing the arguments you find to be wrong instead of throwing all central bankers (or any class of individuals) under the same bus.

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        7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @dandolfa @pierre_rochard

          That would certainly not be better. It is an awful way to waste one's time, trying to reconcile the realities of monetary history and engineering, which I have mastered, with the superstitions of central banker macroecon. I'm not yet another of your victims.

          1 reply 2 retweets 11 likes
        8. David Andolfatto‏ @dandolfa 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard

          Alright, well I would have certainly preferred a civil and enlightening conversation, but it seems you're not willing. Wishing you all the best with your project.

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        9. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @dandolfa @pierre_rochard

          Apparently this is indeed religion and I am the devil. :-)

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        1. Anton Seim  🔑‏ @antonseim 10 Nov 2018
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          Yes! That’s so true. They focus and talk incessantly on one event, in one nation, at one time in history, during unique circumstances, and ignore all other monetary history in every other part of the world. Well said.

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        2. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina 10 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @pierre_rochard

          The @federalreserve and its acolytes share common ground with central planners, a belief that systems can be controlled with enough information and knowledge. Such tinkering has given us 0% rates, a burst TMT bubble, housing bubble, and yet to burst sovereign debt bubble.

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        3. Lightning Master Hub  ⚡ [BTC LTC]‏ @LN_Master_Hub 10 Nov 2018
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          "belief that systems can be controlled with enough information" In a way, they are correct. They control the system... but not for everyone's benefit... for their own. Siphon off the bubbles, and short sell the bursts.

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        4. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ 11 Nov 2018
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          Yup, socialist don’t believe their own propaganda. It’s so frustrating that because we are good people we assume the devils are just confused. They are not confused - they are feeding while they tell us to lie still because it causes economic stability.

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