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    1. Bron Suchecki‏ @bronsuchecki 30 Oct 2018
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      JP Morgan Chase Bank to tokenize gold bars screams https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/jp-morgan-chase-bank-to-tokenize-gold-bars-using-ethereum-eth-201810300906 … Big news as they have a dominant position in physical and paper precious metal markets but digging deeper I found it is more fake news than big news https://goldchat.blogspot.com/2018/10/jp-morgan-chase-bank-to-tokenize-gold.html …

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 30 Oct 2018
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      Defungibilizing gold is one of the bigger set of steps in the slow death of gold.

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        2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 31 Oct 2018
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          There's fake news all over, it's just easier to detect in one's own area of expertise (h/t Murray Gell-Mann)

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        3. Bron Suchecki‏ @bronsuchecki 31 Oct 2018
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          I think @EpsilonTheory fiat news is the bigger problem: "fiat news, which is to “real news” what fiat currencies like dollars ... are to “real money” like a gold coin ... Fake news is counterfeit news, which is to fiat news what counterfeit bank notes are to fiat currencies."

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        2. Jan Nieuwenhuijs‏ @JanGold_ 30 Oct 2018
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          Since 600 bc gold has circulated with a stamp on it (coinage). No big deal.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 30 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @JanGold_ @bronsuchecki

          Also, that's nothing close to the same thing as blacklisting or whitelisting gold based on the alleged political correctness of its alleged origins (and probably in the future its alleged intermediate holders).

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        4. Jan Nieuwenhuijs‏ @JanGold_ 30 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bronsuchecki

          Blacklisting is good because it demotivates ‘conflict mining’. Political correctness has nothing to do with this. The word ‘alleged’ can be replaced by ‘certain’ if the gold market is fully transparant - ie every LGD bar on a public blockchain.

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        5. Jan Nieuwenhuijs‏ @JanGold_ 31 Oct 2018
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          This blacklisting/whitelisting has existed for centuries now, by the way. See the history of the LBMA. I can recommend this bookhttps://books.google.nl/books/about/The_London_Good_Delivery_List.html?id=_mJpMwEACAAJ&redir_esc=y …

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        6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 31 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @JanGold_ @bronsuchecki

          Not nearly as effective as scientific tracing based on various impurities in the gold itself.

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        7. Jan Nieuwenhuijs‏ @JanGold_ 31 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bronsuchecki

          By the way, can those unique impurities be seen in 9999 fine gold? I thought only in dore.

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        8. Bron Suchecki‏ @bronsuchecki 1 Nov 2018
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          I believe gold fingerprinting can work on refined gold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_fingerprinting … you'd be surprised at the number of impuries still left in the 0.01%

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        9. Jan Nieuwenhuijs‏ @JanGold_ 1 Nov 2018
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          I learned something today. Today is a good day.

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        2. Mark J. Valek‏ @MarkValek 31 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bronsuchecki

          do you mean defungibilization via centralization? #400ozBars etc

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 31 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @MarkValek @bronsuchecki

          Centralization + use of blacklists or whitelists for the gold itself based on who its previous owners were.

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        4. Riding Unicorns to the Moon‏ @dnarby 31 Oct 2018
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          What I want to know is once this gold is signed, sealed, blockchained, delivered, and otherwise encapsulated with a big TRUST US, WE'RE JP MORGUE how are you supposed to be able to drill it and make sure it's not a gold-plated tungsten slug?

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        1. BitcoinTina ☣️- "TINA" (There is no Alternative)‏ @BitcoinTina 31 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bronsuchecki

          Gold on “the blockchain “. Sounds like a punchline to a bad joke. - in time gold bugs will understand #bitcoin destroys gold’s use case.

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        2. Josh Crumb  🔸‏ @JoshCrumb 1 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @bronsuchecki

          Nick, this gold comment has significant political assumption but lacks an economic logic Is “Slow death” a use case view, or economic view? Gold price is determined by classical supply side economics & utility, not subjective “beliefs”. Flow/politics dont matter here @JanGold_

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        3. Josh Crumb  🔸‏ @JoshCrumb 1 Nov 2018
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          I’m supportive of digital commodities like “bit gold” when the objective scarcity of time/energy is utilized as a proof (unforgeable scarcity as you put it). If this cost is pared w/lasting utility, great..but in no case does it lead to a zero sum altering golds cost/utility f(x)

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