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    1. Matthew Fox‏ @matthewfox_2 24 Oct 2018
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      Matthew Fox Retweeted Nick Szabo  🔑

      Bitcoin’s most profound advancement. “On-chain governance” entirely misses this crucial fact.https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/1055168586434535424 …

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      Nick Szabo  🔑 @NickSzabo4
      Trust-minimized rules are new & in many ways will be vastly superior to what trusted but often not so trustworthy kings, judges, legislatures or regulators have concocted. Trust-minimized code will bring reality to the constitutional ideal "a government of laws & not of men." https://twitter.com/ScottIsherwood/status/1055163082681462785 …
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    2. QuadraQ‏ @QuadraQ 24 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @matthewfox_2 @NickSzabo4

      On-chain governance is about creating the laws as well as a means to change them.

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    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Oct 2018
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      But then they are not trust-minimized, and we are back to the "rule of men", which we already have in a highly evolved form with our governmental and legal systems and don't need to recreate on a technology that makes possible something in most ways vastly superior.

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    4. Matthew Fox‏ @matthewfox_2 24 Oct 2018
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      Further, on chain governance conflates higher(constitutional) and lower (legislative) law. One(inflation rate, consensus rules) should be categorically more difficult to amend than the other (software updates). Productive discourse is inhibited by lack of consensus on this truth

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Oct 2018
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      Without an argument surface ruthlessly minimized at the original writing (coders) & ratification (node upgrades) phases, the potential of trust-minimized code is destroyed and we are backed to very naive & inferior versions of traditional "rule of man" governance.

      12:37 PM - 24 Oct 2018
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        1. Grant Hummer‏ @gphummer 19 Dec 2018
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          What do you think of the 'deist blockchain' argument - a blockchain (eg Ethereum) whose layer 1 code is unstable and constantly changing at first but which eventually ossifies completely as it matures and becomes scalable? Instead of BDFL, BDFB (benevolent dictator for building).

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        2. Wanderer‏ @wanderer_cyber 21 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @matthewfox_2 @QuadraQ

          Wouldn't these problems apply to stake as a whole. Wouldn't onchain governance more or less be what all stake systems are because at the end it's coin holders deciding what node upgrades to support. POS seems no different than PoS systems where you have a ticket vote.

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        3. Wanderer‏ @wanderer_cyber 21 Dec 2018
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          In other words [PoW : PoS : Onchain Gov] -> [reduced argument surface : increased argument surface : Even worse] -> [PoW < any PoS = and sometimes < Any Onchain Gov] .. Ie. PoS is on the spectrum of Onchain Gov, and backward trajectory from reduced argument surface.

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        4. Wanderer‏ @wanderer_cyber 22 Dec 2018
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          @NickSzabo4

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