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    1. nopara73‏ @nopara73 Sep 28
      Replying to @benediktbuenz

      The last time you've tweeted about the vagueness of QC, I've actually took the time and done my homework, and although I had all the motivation to make you right somehow on this, I turned out to come to other conclusions:https://medium.com/@nopara73/stealing-satoshis-bitcoins-cc4d57919a2b …

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    2. Benedikt Bünz‏ @benediktbuenz Sep 28
      Replying to @nopara73

      Look predictions are difficult especially if they are about the future. We don’t have a QC now and we are not close to having one. If you assume that research will on it will advance exponentially then they will of course come at some point.

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    3. Benedikt Bünz‏ @benediktbuenz Sep 28
      Replying to @benediktbuenz @nopara73

      That’s why we should of course work on post quantum computation but currently all of the cryptography that is being used is not quantum secure and we don’t have computationally feasible alternatives yet.

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    4. Benedikt Bünz‏ @benediktbuenz Sep 28
      Replying to @benediktbuenz @nopara73

      Not adding another crypto tool because you are woried about QC is akin to not remodeling in SF because there might be a big earthquake coming. Please don’t use quantum as a blanket argument. There are important tradeoffs but you have to be precise about what they are.

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    5. nopara73‏ @nopara73 Sep 28
      Replying to @benediktbuenz

      Let's assume I agree with you not to immaturely worry about QC and I propose CT+BP to Bitcoin. As long as Schor breaks this, I have no chance of reaching consensus. Thus using QC as a blanket argument is quite reasonable, don't you think?

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    6. Benedikt Bünz‏ @benediktbuenz Sep 28
      Replying to @nopara73

      A) you were talking about Monero which already has CT. CT would of course be deployed as an extension block and be opt in only. If you don’t want to use it you are not affected by it. If you use it you are at risk. Very similar to the Schnorr signature fork.

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    7. Benedikt Bünz‏ @benediktbuenz Sep 28
      Replying to @benediktbuenz @nopara73

      Also if someone has a quantum computer they can steel your money when you are trying to transact or steal the money at the large number of addresses that have a public key online (all multiuse addresses). What is even worse is you can’t use the internet anymore.

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    8. Benedikt Bünz‏ @benediktbuenz Sep 28
      Replying to @benediktbuenz @nopara73

      Online banking: gone end2end encryption: gone https: gone. To put it bluntly if we have QC tomorrow we would be fucked. So if you are worried about QC you probably shouldn’t be using cryptocurrencies at all. So I don’t get the consensus argument.

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    9. nopara73‏ @nopara73 Sep 28
      Replying to @benediktbuenz

      Because the last malleability fix was a breeze to push through, so a change that can be broken by Schor, with that cause silent inflation will be a piece of cake, too?

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    10. Benedikt Bünz‏ @benediktbuenz Sep 28
      Replying to @nopara73

      I honestly don’t know enough and care enough about Bitcoin politics to speculate. I just think that we should acknowledge and discuss risks but be very careful about fear mongering.

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      Nick Szabo ⚡️‏ @NickSzabo4 Sep 28
      Replying to @benediktbuenz @nopara73

      Nah we need more fear, and in particular more fearful eyeballs on the code.

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        1. Benedikt Bünz‏ @benediktbuenz Sep 28
          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @nopara73

          As long as the nice people with fearful eyes find the inflation bugs before the not so nice people with fearful eyes

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