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    1. Joel B. Pollak‏Verified account @joelpollak 22 Aug 2018
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      It's comical that some liberal American pundits will now pretend to care more about land reform in #SouthAfrica than black South Africans do, merely because @realDonaldTrump tweeted about it and therefore he must be a racist & wrong.

      15 replies 39 retweets 141 likes
    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 22 Aug 2018
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      "Land reform" that splendid communist euphemism for theft.

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    3. dstadulis‏ @dstadulis 22 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @joelpollak @realDonaldTrump

      I’m not familiar with the history of land title claims in South Africa but if you believe in Natural Rights, any land possessed via aggression rather than a sale ought to be nullified. Rothbard discusses this in Ethics of Liberty. Do colonial invasion/rule count as aggression?

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    4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 22 Aug 2018
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      Statute of limitations. Laches. We are talking agressions that allegedly happened centuries ago. Time limits for recovery are a universal aspect of humane property law, otherwise practically all titles everywhere would be the subject of multiple disputes.

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    5. Bill Stewart‏ @BillStewart415 24 Aug 2018
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      In the case of ZA, most land title is post-Boer-War; I think my titles in NJ and http://CA.US  went back well farther. In ZA the bans on non-white land ownership extend much more recently than that, to now-living people, and all titles are legitimate to dispute.

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    6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @BillStewart415 @dstadulis and

      A title dispute isn't legitimate unless there is a legitimate claim, i.e. a legal heir to an illegally displaced landowner. That is certainly not what is going on here in any way shape or form, and the confiscations are in no way, shape, or form legitimate.

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    7. Bill Stewart‏ @BillStewart415 24 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @dstadulis and

      A post-feudal non-nomadic plant-agriculture-and-buildings land title may not be a legitimate structure to impose on land used by nomadic herders; if it's imposed by a minority-race-only government only permitting members of the minority to own land, it can hardly claim that. 1/

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    8. Bill Stewart‏ @BillStewart415 24 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @BillStewart415 @NickSzabo4 and

      Saying "My grandpa helped the king steal this land from your tribe" doesn't give white farmers a moral position to claim that black farmers or the new government can't do the same to them, even if it does give them legitimacy in disputes with other Anglo or Boer tribe-members. 2/

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @BillStewart415 @dstadulis and

      Property law (both common law and Roman), including principles like statute of limitations & laches, gives them that legitimacy. You are now just repeating, presumably inadvertently, socialist talking points that ignore or severely denigrate property rights and property law.

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        2. Bill Stewart‏ @BillStewart415 24 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @dstadulis and

          As are you :-), since from an African perspective, the British and Boer claims to property law are just as socialist, denigrating previous property rights and legal customs. Imposing a statute of limitations as "from back when we conquered this place" doesn't survive revolutions.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @BillStewart415 @dstadulis and

          So you can recite to me the relevant Zulu property laws and name the current specific person(s) who are legal heirs to the land under their law? If not, with all due respect, I love you man but shut the fuck up about topics you know so little about.

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        4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Aug 2018
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          p.s. nobody knows these things, the evidence is gone, which is why we have laches and statute of limitations and similar. Those principles are not some great white man conspiratorial racist plot.

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