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    Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 19 Aug 2018
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    The Cantillon effect: "the first ones to receive the newly created money see their incomes rise, whereas the last ones to receive the newly created money see their purchasing power decline as consumer price inflation comes about." https://mises.org/library/how-central-banking-increased-inequality … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Cantillon …

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      2. Koen Vingerhoets‏ @IthronKoen 19 Aug 2018
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        Heh when I read the tweet I was expecting an article about incrowd #ICO #presales. Alas...

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 19 Aug 2018
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        The discount window is the original ICO presale.

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      4. Bitrock Capital‏ @Bitrockcapital Jul 29
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4 @IthronKoen

        (Nick, Let me know if these replies are unwanted...don't always mean to be devil's advocate) But figured i'd post a counterpoint Would be curious of other people's thoughts (Sumner argues ending "too big to fail" but keeping NGDP growing at 5%/year)https://www.themoneyillusion.com/it-really-really-really-doesnt-matter-who-gets-the-money-first-part-2/ …

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      5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 29
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        Pathological on so many levels. Give government employees more salary, but those employees won't gain. Apparently only thing central banks buy are perfectly priced gov bonds, don't need to discuss any other Cantillon beneficiaries. WTF?! Malicious dishonesty via obscurantism.

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      6. Bitrock Capital‏ @Bitrockcapital Jul 29
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        I think he'd def agree re:gov't employees salaries (Sumner is fairly libertarian) -but re: bankers getting rich..he does think bonds are priced about right (Fed hasnt bought material amt of bonds since QE3)- If I sell bond to govt for $, do i benefit? crux=are bonds priced right?

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      7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 29
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        Replying to @Bitrockcapital @IthronKoen

        Who knows what he actually believes. I was just paraphrasing the whacky, obviously wrong things he said.

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      8. Bitrock Capital‏ @Bitrockcapital Jul 29
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        Right, but if Cantillon Effect was playing a big role, Sumner would argue: "then why did rates RISE on news of new QE?" (as they did with QE1-3) Those rise in rates (drop in bond price) would HURT the rich bankers who were trading with the Fed, no? https://www.themoneyillusion.com/interest-rates-and-the-facevase-problem/ …pic.twitter.com/iIhkYNHgmV

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      9. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Jul 29
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        Tons of things can cause rates to rise. It's a multicausal world.

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      2. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang 19 Aug 2018
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        People often forget how important the mechanisms by which this money gets into the system are.

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 19 Aug 2018
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        Macroeconomics is the art of ignoring the obvious in favor of belaboring the hopelessly speculative with pseudo-scientific math and pseudo-Greek prose. The Cantillion effect is one of the very obvious things that they very artfully ignore.

        6 replies 43 retweets 155 likes
      4. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang 19 Aug 2018
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        No it’s easy. You just hit the ‘Increase Aggregate Demand’ button then sit back and watch the GDP roll in. Problem solved

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      5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 19 Aug 2018
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        Bears about as much resemblance to the actual financial institutions as chess does to a medieval battlefield.

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      2. riposte‏ @ripothefrench Mar 18
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        Do you find some analogies between Cantillon effect and bitcoin or bcash mining?

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 Mar 18
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        Miners are essential to a POW cryptocurrency, fiat Cantillon effect beneficiaries typically are not. Also miner rewards and fees are explicit and public, Cantillon benefits and penalties are tacit and usually ignored, but not less real for being so.

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      2. Crypto Millionaire App‏ @eagletwitt3r Mar 20
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        #Socialism in #Venezuela has been super efficient at destroying wealth. As usual, the most vulnerable: elderly pensioners, teachers, children have been hit the hardest. Think your fiat currency of choice is safe and you will retire comfortably with your savings? Think again...pic.twitter.com/xrVfajHldH

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      3. Satoshi Nakameowdough‏ @Nakameowdough Mar 20
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        Replying to @eagletwitt3r @Beautyon_ @NickSzabo4

        you know what else has been super efficient in destroying wealth? US economic sanctions and intervention.

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      4. Crypto Millionaire App‏ @eagletwitt3r Mar 20
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        Replying to @Nakameowdough @Beautyon_ @NickSzabo4

        The US only stopped buying Venezuelan oil in January, 2019 so NOPE, you commie propaganda is wrong. In the meantime, the boli-bourgeoisie has been living the high life with all the wealth they stole in the #Capitalism they supposedly hate...pic.twitter.com/is6NrjmfEr

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      5. Satoshi Nakameowdough‏ @Nakameowdough Mar 20
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        Replying to @eagletwitt3r @Beautyon_ @NickSzabo4

        oh your use of CAPSLOCK has won you the argument. well played sir. Believe what you want to believe.

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      6. Crypto Millionaire App‏ @eagletwitt3r Mar 20
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        Replying to @Nakameowdough @Beautyon_ @NickSzabo4

        I believe in what I have seen and lived. Unlike you, I have lived in communism and I have seen both sides of the game playing it. It's you who wants to blindly believe in something you have never actually lived.pic.twitter.com/ZRKs6oNtMx

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      7. Satoshi Nakameowdough‏ @Nakameowdough Mar 20
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        Replying to @eagletwitt3r @Beautyon_ @NickSzabo4

        I live where socialist policies are put into great effect on a daily basis. The irony of you calling me an SJW is typical though - you, nor I, have any position telling other people how to live their lives.

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