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    1. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      I suspect AT&T (and others) don't do that because it'd be bad marketing to say "Hey! You're phone #'s aren't secure!" Petzl seems to have gotten over that problem, and is quite happy to warn you how you can kill yourself with their products.

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    2. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @ChrisBlec @NickSzabo4 @TuurDemeester

      I think such agreements are bullshit. And legally speaking they often are: courts don't let you sign away all liability with a simple contract without a clear and informed discussion about the risks.

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    3. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @peterktodd @ChrisBlec and

      For example, a wilderness guide will likely have you sign a waiver. But the waiver is worthless by itself: the part that protects them is the information (often via a discussion) you'll get about what risks you'll be encountering on that trip. Good guides do that.

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    4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 15 Aug 2018
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      These wilderness guides are offering a wilderness guide service. AT&T is not offering an "identity" service. The guides at Yoesemite won't give you information about Chinese pandas, because that's well outside the scope of their service and they need know nothing about pandas.

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    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @peterktodd and

      Similarly, phone company people do not and need not know how phone numbers are being used as a security theater shortcut for real security in the dizzying variety of new technologies such as cryptocurrency. That's Coinbases' business, it is not at all theirs.

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    6. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      Again, I'm not expecting them to know about a "dizzying variety of technologies" I'm expecting them to know about a few major ones and respond appropriately when lots of people are getting hurt.

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    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 15 Aug 2018
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      Yes you certainly are expecting, e.g., for them to know that cryptocurrency transactions are irreversible (when the traditional banking transactions they are familiar with are not) and then warn about such dangers. That is very much Coinbase's business and knowledge, not theirs.

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    8. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      No I'm not. I'm expecting them to notice that lots of people are getting hurt, via well publicized hacks, over and over again. I am *not* expecting them to anticipate new threats. That would require in-depth knowledge. (that's what we expect from engineering...)

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @peterktodd @ChrisBlec @TuurDemeester

      You are expecting superstitious mental miracles. Irreversible cryptocurrency is not their knowledge, expertise, or business. They know nothing about it, and there is nothing in their relationship with their customers that gives rise to a need for them to know about it.

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        2. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @ChrisBlec @TuurDemeester

          "They know nothing about it" <- I find that rather hard to believe... especially when 2FA related porting problems have happened in many other circumstances.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 15 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @peterktodd @ChrisBlec @TuurDemeester

          But they are all different. They would undoubtedly be overwhelmed if they tried to muck around in even a significant fraction of this oceanic quagmire.

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        4. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ 15 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @peterktodd and

          Absolutely true. The only worse security assessments I’ve done have been for government agencies. Cell phone companies (read government sponsored cartels) are unbelievable. But — my prediction. Public outrage. Regulation. Increased cost. Decreased security and UX. SoX again

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        2. Seccour‏ @Seccour_FR 15 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @peterktodd and

          It's only about cryptocurrencies. It can harm people for a lot of services. Yes for bank account payments can be reversed but it doesn't mean nobody is loosing in the process

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        3. Seccour‏ @Seccour_FR 15 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @Seccour_FR @NickSzabo4 and

          It's not only*

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