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    1. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @ChrisBlec @NickSzabo4 @TuurDemeester

      Nope. The gun is doing what it was designed to do, what the user knew it would do, and there are strong societal arguments for guns to exist from bigger picture freedoms.

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    2. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @peterktodd @ChrisBlec and

      That kind of argument is actually why I used the Petzl example: Petzl is allowing their buyers to do dangerous things by selling climbing gear that has a high chance to get them killed. And that's totally OK with adequate documentation.

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    3. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @ChrisBlec @NickSzabo4 @TuurDemeester

      Then take some basic steps to discourage 2FA! AT&T knew it was an issue, so taking some basic measures like at least asking the likes of Twitter and Coinbase to stop doing it would be reasonable. Sounds like they didn't.

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    4. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @peterktodd @ChrisBlec and

      If a company as big as Petzl knew their gear was being misused, and people were getting hurt in large numbers, I'd expect them to at least put out some documentation explaining why it was a bad idea. That's a low standard to hold someone too, so reasonable.

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    5. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      Go read some Petzl instructional manuals: pretty much all of them have examples of what *not* to do. That's a product being misused, and a concrete attempt at discouraging that misuse. I don't see AT&T doing that with 2FA.

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    6. Peter Todd‏ @peterktodd 15 Aug 2018
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      I suspect AT&T (and others) don't do that because it'd be bad marketing to say "Hey! You're phone #'s aren't secure!" Petzl seems to have gotten over that problem, and is quite happy to warn you how you can kill yourself with their products.

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    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @peterktodd @ChrisBlec @TuurDemeester

      It would go way over the heads of the vast majority of their customers, and even of most security professionals, and even of themselves, to try to describe in any reasonably complete fashion what phone numbers are and are not secure for.

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    8. Ruminative Orangutan‏ @Ruminorang 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @peterktodd and

      To be fair phone companies thrive on making things super confusing for their customers. But you probably wouldn’t want to put worry in their heads regarding security.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 15 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @Ruminorang @peterktodd and

      If you think it's confusing now, just make them liable for the dizzying variety of things strangers do with their phone numbers. New and renewing customers would have to fill out a tediously long form asking you whether you plan to abuse their phone number if various ways.

      8:59 PM - 15 Aug 2018
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