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    1. Jameson Lopp‏Verified account @lopp 10 Aug 2018
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      Measuring centralization can be an informative academic exercise, but IMO the only way to know if a network is sufficiently decentralized is to attack it. If it can withstand attacks from nation states, it's sufficiently decentralized.

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    2. Pieter Wuille‏ @pwuille 10 Aug 2018
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      Furthermore, formalizing a metric for decentralization and then optimizing that metric will almost certainly select for the wrong thing. E.g., more listening nodes is better, because it's a proxy for independent users. But incentivizing more nodes will just give you AWS hordes.

      8 replies 30 retweets 249 likes
    3. elizabeth stark‏ @starkness 10 Aug 2018
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      ☝️ This is why regulators determining degrees of "decentralization" is so damn dangerous.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @starkness @pwuille @lopp

      As valuable as decentralization may be for specifying laws, for example to define securities, the legal definitions need not and probably will not have much of anything to do with what kinds of decentralization best minimize trust.

      12:14 PM - 11 Aug 2018
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        2. elizabeth stark‏ @starkness 11 Aug 2018
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          I'm worried about using "decentralization" as a metric to define *anything*. The Howey test doesn't have a decentralization factor, though it does specify a "common enterprise" component.

          6 replies 4 retweets 56 likes
        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 11 Aug 2018
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          Indeed, metrics radically oversimplify the computer science and practical issues of trust minimization.

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        4. Sterling‏ @thestermeister 11 Aug 2018
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          Not everything that matters can be measured, and not everything that can be measured matters. Decentralization matters, for many things, but it is not easily or reliably measured.

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        5. drlx  ⚡‏ @DoctorLex 12 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @thestermeister @NickSzabo4 and

          Goodhart's law here may apply

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        6. elizabeth stark‏ @starkness 12 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @DoctorLex @thestermeister and

          Correct! Just learned that it had a name and now it's indispensable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law …

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        1. David Noble‏ @ClassWithNoble 11 Aug 2018
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          Does decentralization today mean decentralized tomorrow???

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        1. ₽ e t e r ₽ o s t  💌 🗝‏ @participassant 11 Aug 2018
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          As it’s all about distinguishing currency and security, it’s funny to also consider the degree of centralisation of conventional fiat-currency. Consider the Turkish Lira and it’s rate-dependency on the issuing government’s monetary, fiscal and judicial policy and geo-politics.

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