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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Sound Maze‏ @soundmazedj 8 Aug 2018
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      @NickSzabo4 Join ushttps://twitter.com/Beautyon_/status/1027353628603043840 …

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      Beautyon @Beautyon_
      OK. These are the instructions. Get a Mastodon account on https://bitcoinhackers.org  then use IFTTT https://ifttt.com/applets/zVRwYKr4-mastodon-twitter … to connect your Twitter to it. All you need to ever do is tweet from Mastodon, and THIS TIME you won't be restricted by Socialist Nocoiner admins! AMIRITE?!
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    2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 9 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @soundmazedj

      Why is it requiring me to confirm via an email address? That doesn't stop bots. I'm not going to link the account to my email address, please turn this sign-up requirement off and I'll sign up.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 9 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @soundmazedj

      @Beautyon_

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    4. Sound Maze‏ @soundmazedj 9 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @Beautyon_

      Hey Nick I'm hearing that you can use any email you want and that they can turn off bots. Moderation is local level.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 9 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @soundmazedj @Beautyon_

      If I use a throw-away email it's a PITA for me and useless for account recovery. Just turn it off -- it's going to discourage other new users and ruin the network effect, making it pointless for me to join in the first place.

      4 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    6. NVK‏Verified account @nvk 9 Aug 2018
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      I unfortunately that’s how Mastodon was designed. My view on this systemhttps://bitcoinhackers.org/@nvk/100518165472467310 …

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    7. Sound Maze‏ @soundmazedj 9 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @nvk @NickSzabo4 @Beautyon_

      (for the lazy)pic.twitter.com/je22eolBiV

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    8. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 9 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @soundmazedj @nvk @Beautyon_

      Not lazy, just know a thing or two about UI and mental transaction costs and network effects. If it presents unnecessary difficulties for me it will discourage others as well. P.S. you aren't going to solve identity.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    9. Sound Maze‏ @soundmazedj 9 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @nvk @Beautyon_

      Wasn't calling you lazy, Nick, I just know that many will look at this thread. Fine don't come.

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    10. murat‏ @mayfer 9 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @soundmazedj @NickSzabo4 and

      Should be relatively simple to swap out the membership methodology since moderation is always done locally per instance, but what method would you prefer @NickSzabo4 ? Just enter a name and go?

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 9 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @mayfer @soundmazedj and

      Name, password, repeat password, that's it. If you really have to you can later bug the user to enter an optional email address and explain that they may have problems recovering their account in certain circumstances if they don't.

      3:49 PM - 9 Aug 2018
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        2. murat‏ @mayfer 9 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @soundmazedj and

          I tend to agree fully, but that also requires a reddit-like spam detection (and post throttling for new users) so that a mass number of throwaway accounts don't ruin the community. Or reputation system & filtering. I think it's an essential part of self-organizing communities.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 9 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @mayfer @soundmazedj and

          Bots can set up email addresses far easier than people can. You're making far more additional work for the users than you are for the bots.

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        4. murat‏ @mayfer 9 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @soundmazedj and

          That is true. The only problem email/phone auth solves is disincentivizing creation of alt-accounts by making it a hassle for real users. I think most communities are afraid of alt accounts. Except reddit.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 9 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @mayfer @soundmazedj and

          That makes sense, except that again it doesn't stop bots from setting up a gazillion accounts, the bot just has to be programmed to set up an email account and go to the link in the email.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. murat‏ @mayfer 9 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @soundmazedj and

          Honestly Captcha+Username is probably far more secure than Email+Username. And if the point is to "make it a hassle" for real users to get multiple accounts, I'd just put a limit on signups per IP+UserAgent or something.

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