Not lazy, just know a thing or two about UI and mental transaction costs and network effects. If it presents unnecessary difficulties for me it will discourage others as well. P.S. you aren't going to solve identity.
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Wasn't calling you lazy, Nick, I just know that many will look at this thread. Fine don't come.
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Should be relatively simple to swap out the membership methodology since moderation is always done locally per instance, but what method would you prefer
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Name, password, repeat password, that's it. If you really have to you can later bug the user to enter an optional email address and explain that they may have problems recovering their account in certain circumstances if they don't.
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I tend to agree fully, but that also requires a reddit-like spam detection (and post throttling for new users) so that a mass number of throwaway accounts don't ruin the community. Or reputation system & filtering. I think it's an essential part of self-organizing communities.
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Bots can set up email addresses far easier than people can. You're making far more additional work for the users than you are for the bots.
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That is true. The only problem email/phone auth solves is disincentivizing creation of alt-accounts by making it a hassle for real users. I think most communities are afraid of alt accounts. Except reddit.
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That makes sense, except that again it doesn't stop bots from setting up a gazillion accounts, the bot just has to be programmed to set up an email account and go to the link in the email.
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Honestly Captcha+Username is probably far more secure than Email+Username. And if the point is to "make it a hassle" for real users to get multiple accounts, I'd just put a limit on signups per IP+UserAgent or something.
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Besides the identity problem in which is as bad as twitter, the federation paradigm of mastodon is more censorship resistant (many instances to choose from and the ability to make one if necessary) and privacy-aware (no usage data is collected and sold to 3rd parties).
Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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I agree, their identity system is terrible. But, it's another channel. More channels less censorship.
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Also : Seems like at a minimum the operator of an instance has access to your IP address. What if he is (or becomes) a bad actor ? Check for example the terms of use of the 'social' instance. It explicitly mentions IP address logging.
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