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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 23 Jul 2018
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    Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted George Selgin

    George is a fellow OG but this is wrong. Bitcoin is seamlessly global, it does not and need not conform to the ideological speculations ("macroeconomic theories") of particular polities.https://twitter.com/GeorgeSelgin/status/1021553927324688386 …

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    George Selgin @GeorgeSelgin
    When I wrote my book on free banking, I tried to persuade other economists that it would promote stability. To do that, I had to take their concerns, theories, and beliefs seriously. Fans of bitcoin and other crypto's ought to do the same.
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      2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 23 Jul 2018
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        Dr. Selgin was on the mailing list with Wei Dai and myself where in 1998 cryptocurrency (bit gold, and a bit later b-money) was invented. His description of free banking was very inspirational and informative.

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Jul 2018
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        (Also Larry White's description of free banking). My two-layer architecture (bit gold for the basic currency and settlement, Chaumian cash for the retail "bank notes") was inspired by the free banking system of bank notes redeemable on demand for gold at a gold window.

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      4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Jul 2018
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        The lesson I drew from that and other aspects of history that the real money in these circumstances was gold -- that is what people wanted at the end of the day. If the gold window closed, the trust-based part of the system collapsed.

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      5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Jul 2018
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        Trust and security considerations are far more important than speculations about aggregate human behavior. Psychologists have a hard time making their experiments on individuals repeatable. Macroeconomists speculate about vast numbers of interacting individuals, no repeatability.

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      6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Jul 2018
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        High inflation causes savers and creditors large tangible harms, as we see today in Venezuela, Iran, Sudan, Nigeria, Argentina, &c. But alleged harms caused by much lower levels of "bad deflation" are very causally remote from monetary decisions -- it's ideological speculation.

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      7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Jul 2018
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        While macroeconomic debates are very popular in the fiat central banking world, where monetary decisions are highly political, they are nevertheless ideological speculations not science.

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      8. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 Jul 2018
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        For these reasons, I strongly urge those developing or maintaining cryptocurrencies to focus on trust minimization and security. Protect holders against internally caused loss of value, but treat macroeconomic considerations with many grains of salt and very low priority.

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      2. Jon Matonis‏ @jonmatonis 24 Jul 2018
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        Additionally, I think the debate has progressed to the point of how bitcoin successfully challenges the institutionalized incumbency advantages that national fiat has over btc when it comes to expressing prices in the new numéraire, or unit of account.https://www.alt-m.org/2011/12/22/making-the-transition-to-a-new-gold-standard/ …

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      3. nothingmuch‏ @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 24 Jul 2018
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        @SoakerPatoshi btw this seems relevant too, if I understood this article, Nash's argument is that a parallel standard is asymptotically the same as reestablishing a standard by fiat, but only in the presence of a sufficiently apolitical commodity money (which gold is not)

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      5. Stefen Deleveaux‏ @stefdelev 24 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 and

        To be fair, I don't think anyone does.

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      7. nothingmuch‏ @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 24 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @stefdelev and

        nothingmuch Retweeted Nick Szabo  🔑

        FWIW, I think this critique applies to your explanation just the same: https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/1021657068246261760 … That you or Nash could be correct doesn't mean you are correct a priori

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        Nick Szabo  🔑 @NickSzabo4
        While macroeconomic debates are very popular in the fiat central banking world, where monetary decisions are highly political, they are nevertheless ideological speculations not science.
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      9. nothingmuch‏ @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5 24 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @stefdelev and

        Nash's argument is a theory, and it's not very clearly falsifiable either, in the sense that the predictions it makes a single prediction over an indefinite time horizon. It may turn out to describe how reality plays out, or maybe it won't

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      1. Blizzard of Words‏ @YangVentures 27 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4 @real_dual

        When was the last time you were wrong about something in Bitcoin or smart contracts?

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      1. George Selgin‏ @GeorgeSelgin 24 Jul 2018
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        We might also ask which would be best at ruling-out booms and busts. But we need economics to answer such questions. I don't think any of this is a matter of ideology. Nor does it mean that gov't should oppose innovations that don't conform to my or any other economist's ideal!

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      1. Eric‏ @2ez28u 24 Jul 2018
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        Nick is on fire 🔥 tonight good read !

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      2. Cthulhu‏ @IotReevolution 24 Jul 2018
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        Btc is slow , expensive and centralised. But I agree .. it is a global phenomena. Maybe in the future it will be useful.

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      3. Nik  🔑‏ @al1enz 24 Jul 2018
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        when u last test btc? i send yesterday 687$ cost btc and fee was 0.06$ oh it's very expensive

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      4. Cthulhu‏ @IotReevolution 24 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @al1enz @workerge @NickSzabo4

        The average fees is more expensive than that.. when the network is busy the fees are too expensive. On ledger btc can do just 6 transactions per sec. It can not scale.

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      5. Cthulhu‏ @IotReevolution 24 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @IotReevolution @workerge @NickSzabo4

        Lightning network could be the answer. However still early days and the economic model that is going to build on top of it will give priority to big banks/institutions. I would honestly have preferred to enlarge to block size.. way more democratic and fair.

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      6. Cthulhu‏ @IotReevolution 24 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @IotReevolution @workerge @NickSzabo4

        Plus.. why do everyone still believe btc is decentralised when the hashing power is in the hands of 1-2 mining pools?

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      7. Nik  🔑‏ @al1enz 24 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @IotReevolution @NickSzabo4

        u dont like 8k, bcoz u want 20k again. than yr tweets will be shiny.

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      8. Cthulhu‏ @IotReevolution 24 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @al1enz @workerge @NickSzabo4

        Do not get me wrong I see value in btc but it is also important to find technical limitations in projects. I am not a fun of any coins. The utility of the coins is what will make the value rise. What utility do you see in btc?

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      9. Nik  🔑‏ @al1enz 24 Jul 2018
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        Replying to @IotReevolution @NickSzabo4

        problem is u cant see it.

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