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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Thœ‏ @HighOnFiat 10 Jul 2018
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      Consensus mechanism Supply schedule Fee vs inflation structure Synchronous vs asynchronous Liveness vs fault tolerance Platform grade vs sovereign grade CR Consistency vs Availability Data structure These are all examples of trade offs that offer some benefits over others

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    2. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ 10 Jul 2018
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      Clueless. But I bet you can destroy some noobs with those boobs.

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    3. Potentially Human‏ @potenthominid 10 Jul 2018
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      Bitcoin can't do what $ZRX can do, nor can it do what $VEN is doing. You're obviously clueless. It's not all about cryptocurrencies.

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    4. Thœ‏ @HighOnFiat 10 Jul 2018
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      @WeathermanIam said that only one protocol will survive because these are ‘protocol wars’. I call BS. I agree bitcoin will accrue the majority value monopolising ‘sound money’. I also think it’s naive to think other protocols can’t co exist serving different functions better.

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    5. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ 10 Jul 2018
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      That’s because you don’t understand what money is and that anything interesting, such as smart contracts, are more interesting when tied to money (and a bunch of other things).

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    6. Thœ‏ @HighOnFiat 10 Jul 2018
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      Ok let’s talk about ‘money’ then because I feel that’s the core of your argument. Do you know what a Menger good is? Money isn’t a binary notion, certain good are more ‘money like’ than others. Btc is very money like but other goods/coins that support value can also act as money

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    7. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ 10 Jul 2018
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      Have you read @saifedean s book? I’m not going to try to recreate it here or my class where I cover this in some depth. But I will say money acts as a “unit of account.”

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    8. Thœ‏ @HighOnFiat 10 Jul 2018
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      Yes I have. Have you read @NickSzabo4’s blog post on Menger Goods or the history of money? If a crypto network fills a valuable function better than btc could by incorporating different tradeoffs then the token supporting it will have monetary properties I.e claim on value, UoE

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    9. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Jul 2018
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      Much easier said than done though. A great deal of thought went into designing Bitcoin and its precursors as the best money computer science could design, and few of the people doing knockoffs know what needs to be optimized.

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    10. Thœ‏ @HighOnFiat 10 Jul 2018
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      Sure, I agree. Although bitcoin can’t physically optimise for every possible use case. There are many variants of design specs and tradeoffs being experimented with. I’m willing to bet at least one other protocol has reason to exist to fill a purpose that bitcoin shouldn’t.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @HighOnFiat @WeathermanIam and

      If by "physical optimization" you mean conserving on computational resources, that's usually very unimportant compared to conserving on mental and institutional resources, or doing things current institutions can't do (like seamless global operation).

      2:52 PM - 10 Jul 2018
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        2. Thœ‏ @HighOnFiat 10 Jul 2018
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          I mean that if I take 4 ‘popular’ tradeoffs as an example: CAP, FLP, @VitalikButerin’s ‘scalability trilemma’ and consensus mechanisms plus many more; I posit that value has a possibility to accrue in more than just bitcoin in this n-dimensional tradeoff space

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        3. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ 10 Jul 2018
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        4. Thœ‏ @HighOnFiat 10 Jul 2018
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          🤪

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        5. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ 10 Jul 2018
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          Replying to @HighOnFiat @NickSzabo4 and

          You Eth guys work very hard to explain yourselves with the most obscure wording possible. This whole game is about creating a money that is so hard to steal it can compete with government fiat in spite the threats of violence. Other stuff is novelty by comparison.

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        6. Thœ‏ @HighOnFiat 10 Jul 2018
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          Sure the money use case is by far the most important in almost every respect. My point being that we have enough variations in ingredients that something else of value is possible to come out of this.

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        7. JW Weatherman | mathbot.com‏ @JWWeatherman_ 10 Jul 2018
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          Ok, well if you are at the point of understanding that we only have one government hard blockchain and it will cover 90% or more of the use case that's progress. Now tell me why tokens or smart contracts or whatever are not going to be more valuable when they work on bitcoin?

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