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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 29 May 2018
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    Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted panek

    Great thread about how much EOS depends on a naively drafted "constitution", human-interpreted wet code. As a result EOS will be labor-intensive, permissioned, jurisdictionally biased, and will have poor social scalability.https://twitter.com/panekkkk/status/1001627755736322048 …

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    panek @panekkkk
    1/ Most don't know this but every tx in $EOS must include a hash of the EOS Constitution. This binds users to the constitution and failure to include it may be grounds for invalidating a tx. 🤦‍♂️ Here is the most recent draft: https://bit.ly/2IYjqVa  $BTC $ETH
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      2. Joe Jordan‏ @JJordan 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        The beauty of blockchain is the ability of individuals to choose their own form of governance. EOS has adopted a new approach that addresses some of the pain points in Ethereum, Bitcoin and others. It's Constitution sets some basic rules, but much is still left to the community.

        1 reply 3 retweets 28 likes
      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @JJordan

        That's the ugliness of utopian drivel, not the beauty of blockchains.

        9 replies 4 retweets 148 likes
      4. Joe Jordan‏ @JJordan 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        Free association and free markets are a beautiful thing. If it turns out that code is better off as unassailable law then we will continue to see migration towards truly immutable blockchains. Perfect code is a narrow bullseye to hit, so EOS could well fill an important role.

        2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
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      2. Daniel Rice‏ @thedrbits 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        It makes sense that supporters of #cryptocurrencies that ignore governance would criticize attempts to create proper governance structures. Nobody is suggesting the #EOS plan is perfect, but it's intended to be iterative and a fundamentally new experiment.

        3 replies 0 retweets 24 likes
      3. ck‏ @ck_SNARKs 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @thedrbits @NickSzabo4

        Bitcoin has governance. If you want to make a none backwards compatible change you need 100% social consensus. The default is to do nothing. Everything else requires intense and critical peer review. Other governance will introduce security holes and social attack vectors.

        1 reply 2 retweets 19 likes
      4. Daniel Rice‏ @thedrbits 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @ck_SNARKs @reallife_ck @NickSzabo4

        I'm saying #Bitcoin ignores governance. There is a ton of Bitcoin governance that nobody talks about. Which code people run their wallets on is completely social consensus governed by privately controlled channels like the moderators of /r/Bitcoin and http://bitcoin.org 

        2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      5. ck‏ @ck_SNARKs 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @thedrbits @NickSzabo4

        Ya and r/Btc and bitcoin dot com and anyone else trying to represent bitcoin. It’s not that governance is being ignored it’s that democracy style governance may not necessarily be the right way of managing a censorship resistant protocol.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      6. Daniel Rice‏ @thedrbits 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @ck_SNARKs @reallife_ck @NickSzabo4

        Good point, but the chaos of what you're describing may limit Bitcoin's adoption vs other cryptocurrency projects that provide digestible recommendations from a centralized source. Asking people to decide which Bitcoin is the real Bitcoin leads to fragmentation.

        3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      7.  ⚡hashfunk ⚡‏ @hashfunk 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @thedrbits @reallife_ck @NickSzabo4

        Centralized cryptocurrencies are gift cards/reward points operating on the most inefficient digital databases ever conceived. I'm sorry to be the first to tell you this Mr. Blockchain CTO

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      8. Daniel Rice‏ @thedrbits 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @hashfunk @reallife_ck @NickSzabo4

        define centralized cryptocurrency

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      9.  ⚡hashfunk ⚡‏ @hashfunk 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @thedrbits @reallife_ck @NickSzabo4

        One with "digestible recommendations from a centralized source" and/or a mutable ledger. I actually don't see how the former is much different than what you claim is happening in BTC via reddit mods and domain registrants.

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      2. Maury McCoy‏ @MauryMcCoy 6 Jun 2018
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        I see the constitution more as a guide for EOS holders deciding on block producers. They will essentially be judge and jury and kick out BPs who fail to act responsibly. Similar to Google's mantra of "Don't be evil". Not really enforceable, but a basis from which to start.

        8 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
      3. Panos Papadopoulos  ⚡️‏ @PanosJee 6 Jun 2018
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        Replying to @MauryMcCoy @NickSzabo4

        We don’t have time & knowledge to pick political candidates, why should we extend this to block producers. Life is too complex already

        1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
      4. Maury McCoy‏ @MauryMcCoy 7 Jun 2018
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        Replying to @PanosJee @NickSzabo4

        I'd argue DPOS makes that comparison less relevant. True, our one political vote has very little influence in elections, but EOS is different. The more EOS I have, the more my vote counts. It behooves those with the most at stake to be educated.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Panos Papadopoulos  ⚡️‏ @PanosJee 7 Jun 2018
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        Replying to @MauryMcCoy @NickSzabo4

        If established then this is the new rent seeking class.

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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      2. Daniel Tung‏ @tytung2020 29 May 2018
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        EOS is not algorithmically decentralized, Nakamoto consensus is. Neither is it human-made decentralized, as 21 super nodes is still a very small number.

        1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      3. AltHunter‏ @MikeJost7 30 May 2018
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        Replying to @tytung2020 @NickSzabo4

        Yea why make 21BPs when 3 pools can control over 50% sounds more decentralized to me.pic.twitter.com/23btwJGtrf

        5 replies 0 retweets 21 likes
      4. Painted Frog‏ @painted_frog 30 May 2018
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        Replying to @MikeJost7 @tytung2020 @NickSzabo4

        And the entire electricity grid is controlled by one planet. Super centralized!

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