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    Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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    I’m sorry to inform everyone that Sean Wilentz has written _that_ article again, the one about #1619Project being compromised by “serious inaccuracies.” (Thread)https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/1619-project-new-york-times-wilentz/605152/ …

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      2. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        I’m tempted not to engage because Wilentz’s Ahab-like fascination with the Project is unsettling. (I’ll come back to that.) But for now his repeated allegations of factual errors by @nhannahjones and @jakesilverstein invite a response from those of us in the profession.pic.twitter.com/bAshYhZ7CA

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      3. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        On the “facts”, first of all, he attempts to refute three specific claims made by the Project:pic.twitter.com/Id0Zq10xpi

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      4. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        1st, that “one of the primary reasons” the colonists declared independence was to protect slavery; 2nd, that Lincoln “opposed Black equality” & advocated Black colonization outside the U.S. 3rd, that after Reconstruction "for the most part black Americans fought back alone.”

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      5. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        In my professional (!) opinion, none of these assertions is marred by factual error. They are each plausible historical arguments which can be grounded in evidence and existing scholarship. Disagree with them if you wish, but “serious inaccuracies”? Let’s take a look.

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      6. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        The first argument is where Wilentz digs in hardest and, in fairness to him, the Project’s brief implication that antislavery feeling was on the rise in Britain is not fully developed in the lead essay or the magazine itself.pic.twitter.com/QcQrPzDIgK

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      7. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        In Wilentz’s view, the decision of Lord Mansfield in 1772 to free James Somerset had little impact in the colonies and less in Britain. Beyond Granville Sharp, he thinks there wasn’t much antislavery sentiment in GB before _American_ abolitionists got going in the 1780s.

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      8. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        Would be interested to get the view of Chris Brown on this, since he’s the authority cited by Wilentz. Brown’s work makes clear that before 1776 a growing number of GB officials/theorists had become proponents of antislavery - for economic/political more than moral reasons.pic.twitter.com/anUqFtGyLg

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      9. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        The paths of transmission of these ideas — & of Somerset itself — require a greater & more careful analysis than keyword searching of newspaper databases. I hope to have something to share on this before too long, and would love to hear from others working in this area.

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      10. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        I can say now, though, that Granville Sharp was far from alone in believing that the march of antislavery had begun in earnest in Britain by 1772. One index to this is the speedy reaction of planters (e.g. Edward Long of Jamaica) who feared that their world would now cave in.pic.twitter.com/Xm2dbQyMXP

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      11. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        (See also Katherine Paugh’s fascinating work on the Mary Hylas case for a sense of how parallel legal decisions regarding gender and marriage freaked out planters in the colonies.)pic.twitter.com/vXyPkc6J1K

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      12. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        But let's concede that the Project could do more to substantiate the claim that antislavery was on the march in GB; the crucial context here is military emancipation. GB officials from 1775 promised freedom to enslaved people who'd flee their masters & fight for the King.pic.twitter.com/l1nS13Eodm

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      13. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        It’s impossible to say how many enslaved people already knew about Somerset; based on the work of Julius Scott & esp. Graham Hodges (below), we can conclude that Black maritime networks had already seeded the idea among African Americans that Britain was a liberating force.pic.twitter.com/whhto05JrR

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      14. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        This GB offer of freedom panicked and stiffened the spines of Patriots - including those in northern states who were told that the British were unleashing Black and Native violence on white people. Rob Parkinson thinks this racial ‘othering’ was the glue of the Revolution.pic.twitter.com/14Km1wGiVZ

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      15. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        To move quickly to the second point, Wilentz insists that Lincoln evolved beyond seeing Black people as a “troublesome presence.” The Project, on the other hand, suggests that Lincoln was deeply interested in Black colonization and that he “opposed black equality.”

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      16. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        Lincoln’s views on colonization & Black citizenship surely evolved; & as I’ve argued elsewhere colonization failed partly because Black people themselves refused to play the role they’d been offered by those ‘liberal’ whites who wanted them out of the U.S.https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v33/n23/nicholas-guyatt/a-topic-best-avoided …

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      17. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        Some historians take the view that Lincoln’s ‘growth’ brought him nearly all the way to accepting Black equality; others focus on Abe's interest in colonization (even after 1863) & pragmatic desire to expedite the readmission of southern states.

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      18. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        We can debate and respectfully disagree about this stuff — that’s what historians do. What we _don’t_ do is tell someone else that their interpretation contains “serious inaccuracies” just because they don’t arrange the evidence in the same way we might.

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      19. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        The third claim deserves very little response. It's a bad look for white historians to argue that “white people were always an integral part of the fight for racial equality.” To do so while implicitly comparing 1619 to the Dunning School of racist history is…quite something.pic.twitter.com/MZgqXfBYxW

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      20. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        To sum up: each of the three points offends what some of us have called the ‘freedom narrative’, i.e. the proposition that the history of the United States is an expanding circle of liberty: wait for long enough and the sunlight will eventually reach your community & struggles.

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      21. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        1619’s power is to shatter the complacency behind the freedom narrative and to invite us — especially those of us who are white - to consider how these historical experiences look from the perspectives of those who were treated most harshly by America.

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      22. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        You don’t need to be a person of color to find the Project’s emphases compelling/convincing; but I’d argue that if you are NOT a person of color, the Project offers you an invitation to look at American history through the eyes of people who don’t look like you.

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      23. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        Some of my colleagues may take the view that history compels us to suppress our identity and experiences, and that mastery (!) of the craft involves a kind of race-blind approach to research and writing. For me this is fanciful, if not actually deceptive.

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      24. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        What I find genuinely disconcerting about Wilentz is that instead of meeting the Project on the grounds of interpretation — where his view is perfectly legitimate and can make its own friends or foes - he invokes fact and expertise to try, in effect, to cancel the Project.

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      25. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        That this continues after multiple rounds of exchange, and that Wilentz has chosen in particular to fixate on Nikole Hannah-Jones’s sweeping and synoptic essay, tells us much more about Wilentz than about the project.

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      26. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        So I look forward to continued debate, with Wilentz and others, about the ‘freedom narrative’, about how our experience shapes our perspective, and about interpretations. But I think it’d be a good look for him to stop talking about “factual errors” and to quit pulling rank.

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      27. Nicholas Guyatt‏ @NicholasGuyatt 22. sij
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        To close, a reminder of what really shocked Gordon S. Wood and the other grandees who’ve joined with Wilentz in trying to cancel the Project — the New York Times ran a huge piece on American history and didn’t even call them./pic.twitter.com/QSOPKBCxsq

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