Part two of the Panel on Krauss with @TheGodlessMama ,@chrisiousity & @seriouspod is up:https://soundcloud.com/politeconversations/krausspanel2 …
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Part 1 is now available on Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaCHfGEYfTQ&feature=youtu.be …
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Part 2 is now available on Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18I3CS1hoCI&feature=youtu.be …
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You said that people misrepresent SH and even I believe called it "Greenwalding". Could you elaborate on when did Glenn really misrepresent Harris? I've seen Harris and his fans whining about misrepresentation. But having read Glenn's post, I didnt see any misrepresentation.
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Just got around to listening, loved the ep - except for the multiple offhand remarks about the greenwald article linked to by buzzfeed being "garbage" & etc. I went and read the article and it seemed pretty fair? I'm in the same boat as sina. Why do you hate that article?
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No was more a criticism of what I've seen greenwald do in the past...and how I can't take him seriously because of it.
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It sounded like the article was being referred to specifically, though maybe I misunderstood. To be clear though... you rejected the article because of things the author has done in the past? Where can I find what he's done that upset you to that extent?
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I spent a few seconds talking about greenwald. Not sure what u mean by "to that extent". It really wasn't the focus of the episode at all. I'v seen him be dishonest and misrepresent ppl plenty of times over the years but I haven't kept a running list.
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Harris has talked about Greenwald in a way that if one hears him, they would think Glenn's the worst person on the planet. I do think though that his meltdown with Glenn was quite similar to his recent meltdown with Ezra, and Harris's is the one who comes across as childish.
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Oh I'm not at all defending him or that melt down. I have personally seen Glenn misrepresent and be dishonest tho.
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When will this be on youtube? I need to put it on 1.5X speed.
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Next week!
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Please can I be the one to tell Sam. PLEASE.https://twitter.com/pressawardsuk/status/973697346763665408?s=21 …
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the opening so far is the most clear-eyed view of the current skeptic community that I've ever heard.
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Thank you :)
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Is theee a podcast format by chance or just SoundCloud?
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Yep on iTunes and other podcast apps
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Got it. Thanks!
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Lmfao paraphrasing, “Let me warn those with delicate skeptocentric sensibilities. The closest thing you can get to atheist blasphemy is criticizing Sam Harris and there’s a lot of that here” in the first minute. I’m subscribing right now.
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Listening on the treadmill so I’m gonna occasionally tweet some highlights so people understand just how thorough this episode is. Elevatorgate covered. Yup. You know you’re socially unhealthy when you approach the speaker of a harassment talk at 4am in the hotel elevator.
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Some org responses lukewarm, some better. Now onto Krauss’s response, which is trash anyway. He loves the words slander and libel, here we go. Not too much time spent on this nothingburger. “Atheists ask no less tribal than a bunch of theists would” YUP
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Taking on the ridiculous responses: “Thanks for all the science” scientific expertise does not indicate socially healthy outlooks, yup. “Women want more prominence” Yeah people bringing up decades old issues were super exploitative. /s So many fucking Nazis getting cozy.
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“Defensiveness if anyone is critical of the movement” YUP. This is not a movement or group about critical thinking; it’s an identity movement which centers around being “right”. If you challenge their identity you are a threat to their ego. I’d never brag about being a skeptic
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